Samovila wrote:Here's another essay about my thoughts on Snape
Snape's bullying of students is deplorable, petty and inexcusable. However, it seems clear that Snape is a character that has been psychologically damaged by his past.
Psychological damaged? That could indeed be a part of Snape.
Doesn't make him any more likable tho.
Samovila wrote:James, on the other hand, bullied Snape because he was different and because they held more power than him. It is very easy to 'outgrow' bad behaviour when it stems simply from your own arrogance and whim; this is more difficult when you are embittered and damaged from years of neglect, rejection and bullying.
Err... You do relize that this is the topic about Snape and Sirius
. Not James.
And what can be said about Snape's childhood can also be said about Sirius. It simply seems that Sirius was the better man and fought for what was right instead of giving in.
Samovila wrote:Another reason why some readers are more willing to forgive Snape's bullying behaviour than that of Sirius and James is because J.K.R. takes the opposite approach. James and Sirius are shown to bully Snape, not as a retaliatory act, but for the sheer 'fun' of it. Yet, they are rarely condemned or reproached for their cruel behaviour. The majority of Hogwarts staff and pupils praise them for their positive attributes and simply ignore their quite considerable flaws. Even J.K.R. does this, to a certain extent, by asserting that they 'grew into better people', without making them apologise or even demonstrate any real remorse for the harm they caused. In short, they are given a 'get out a jail for free' card, where other characters (including Harry) are made to face up to their mistakes. Conversely, the other characters are well aware of, and open about, Snape's many flaws.
There is a huge flaw in this. The first Snape fans liked him for what he was. They found him interesting and funny to read about. Before we saw the seventh book. They like that he was mean, bullied people and all that. And they thought that was every thing to it. Some people are simply mean. And at this point he did not have many fans at all.
The reason so many damned fangirls are willing to forgive him is because the read a little part in the seventh book called "the prince's tale" and immediately forgot every thing bad about him or ignores it out of pity.
Same thing happened with Jacob Black in Twilight.
A man loving a woman he will never get and gets his heart broken by it has proven to swarm a character fangirls......
Samovila wrote:Somehow, bullying hurts more when it is done by a 'popular' person
I don't agree. A teacher is a role model for the students to learn from and feel safe with. For a young child to be bullied by a much older person with power in that place don't give the child much place to feel safe or stand up for his or her rights. And the friends? Same age with same fear and just as little power. That is much worse.
Samovila wrote:and when other (generally decent) people choose to overlook their bad behaviour. It is easier to shrug off the effects of bullying when most other decent people will at least condemn the behaviour of the bully.
No decent people at Hogwarts would stand up for a death eater. Or those who strove to be one. They feared them and kept their distances.
Samovila wrote:Snape was a cold and selfish b__________ at this stage of his life.
That stage of life? That was who he was the whole
That interview came after the last book and focused on Snape in that time close to the end and his character as whole.
Samovila wrote:Snape only agreed to protect Harry, at this point, because he was the son of Lily. However, having taken this step, Snape begins a journey. At the end of this journey, Snape is a different and more moral character than the man he was at the beginning. Snape learns that all human life is valuable and that he should try to protect others simply because it is the right thing to do.
He became less selfish, mean, horrible, coldhearted, grease and a git.
But mind you he was still was all of those things. He went down from worse to bad. But he was never on neutral or good.
Samovila wrote:Would Snape have reached this realisation, had he not loved Lily? I suspect not.
What realization? That he has only ever cared for what he wants accept when Lily had to give her life for Harry?
Samovila wrote:Does this mean that Snape never learned to value the lives of other innocent people? Not necessarily.
Most certainly not. They did not lie in his interests and nor would he gain anything he wanted from caring.
Samovila wrote:We never learn the full extent of Snape's work as a Death Eater. However, we do know that the former Death Eater, Regulus Black, was genuinely appalled when he discovered the truth about the cause he had previously supported.
who isn't Snape was appalled and tried to leave.
Snape how ever stayed and continued as an active death eater. Until years later when he him self would lose something he wanted if he stayed.
Samovila wrote:Regulus joined the Death Eaters because he believed that pure blood wizards were 'superior' to other wizards and Muggles and that they should assert their 'rightful' position as world leaders. Yet, he did not believe that these people should be tortured or murdered and he even willingly gave his life in an attempt to protect them (i.e. by helping to destroy L.V.)
Which is a reason to why so many people like Regulus. Including me.
In the end he did the right thing because it was the right thing to do.
Samovila wrote:I don't condone Regulus's early views (or similar real life perceptions) but I respect that he learned from his mistakes. Moreover, his enormous courage and selflessness cements his position as a true hero in the series.
I don't doubt that Snape's involvement with the Death Eaters was greater than that of Regulus. Similarly, Regulus's loyalty to Voldemort ended the moment he (Regulus) learned the truth, whereas Snape only left Voldemort because he threatened Lily.[/quote]
And that is the difference. Regulus showed his heart and moral by doing what was right.
Snape? His own personal gain of what he wanted.
Samovila wrote:Yet, it is possible that Snape somehow managed to avoid the more nefarious tasks that were willingly performed by other Death Eaters.
Why would he do that? He didn't like muggle borns save for Lily. He loved dark arts and created his own spells. And he wanted to be some one. To prove him self. Snape would certainly not be the one who served cookies and milk on the meetings.
And there is this quote:Ã¢â‚¬Å“DonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t be shocked, Severus. How many men and women have you watched die?Ã¢â‚¬Â
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Lately, only those whom I could not save,Ã¢â‚¬Â said Snape.
Snape has been on the front lines and raid with his fellow death eaters.
And it was only this close to the end when Snape could care about those when he him self had been involved some how.
Samovila wrote:This doesn't excuse his association with such a despicable movement, but it does seem likely that Snape was never capable of the torture and cold blooded murder that was practiced (and even enjoyed) by L.V. and most of his supporters.
Look at previous answers. The facts suggest other than your guess.