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adie
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 Posted: March 2, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: why dumbledore? |
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| i cant undersand why dumbledore was been killed, and why he has to. |
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| Posted: March 3, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| You're right it makes NO sense why dumbledore was killed. Harry now seems lost without him. If Dumbledore was going to "let" Snape kill him, then wouldn't he have given Harry more information about the last horcruxes. Dumbledore has been withholding information from not just Harry but everybody this whole time. Now all that information is lost. |
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sallyann22
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Dumbedore spent a lot of time telling Harry about the Horcruxes, but forgot that Ginny knew a lot about LV.
She'd written to him in a diary for almost a year. Ginny could know about LV than even Dumbledore did.
So he was making a lot of mistakes at the end, don't you think?
Dumbledore was happy to start his next great adventure, and it sounds like he's going to be in Book 7 in some form, so don't worry.
I'm sure Dumbledore knew that he had to be killed. He wasn't the one to Vanquish LV, but he did train Harry, and that was his great acheivement.
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| Posted: March 4, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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hmmmm....
and thats the saddest part of HArry's life, perhaps. |
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I think after the loss of his parents, Sirius death came as the greatest blow to Harry.
Dumbledore was his guide, not his family, and the Mirror of Erised shows Harry desired family.
So going out on a limb, Sirius' death was the saddest part of Harrys' life.
Chin up, Dumbledore will be back!
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It is all Rowlings fault. She wanted to make sure Harry fought Lord Voldemort alone. Thats why Dumbeldore and Sirius were killed off. Each Father figure he had was taken away.
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i liket that thoery that he had to fight alone...im sure dumbledores picture will give himadvice tho
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| i liket that thoery that he had to fight alone...im sure dumbledores picture will give himadvice tho |
it depends....does the picture have knowledge of its past? All i know is is they are suppose to server the next headmaster/headmistresses at hogwarts.
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sallyann22
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Interesting point.
The Diary contained an image of the soul of 16 year old Tom Riddle - who wasn't aware of anything later on - just what had happened in the first 16 years of his life.
So I'm guessing the picture would know the full history of whats happened so far, well up to and including Dumbledores' death.
The next point is an assumption.
The painting like Voldemorts Horcrux, can learn and think independently. It could be kept up to date, it could learn, just as a Horcrux can. The Phineas Black painting often storms off for a conference with itself in Grimmauld Place doesn't it. So maybe we could have 2 or more Dumbledore working on a problem?
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| sallyann22 wrote: |
Interesting point.
The Diary contained an image of the soul of 16 year old Tom Riddle - who wasn't aware of anything later on - just what had happened in the first 16 years of his life.
So I'm guessing the picture would know the full history of whats happened so far, well up to and including Dumbledores' death.
The next point is an assumption.
The painting like Voldemorts Horcrux, can learn and think independently. It could be kept up to date, it could learn, just as a Horcrux can. The Phineas Black painting often storms off for a conference with itself in Grimmauld Place doesn't it. So maybe we could have 2 or more Dumbledore working on a problem? |
yeah i didn't think about that. but why would jk kill of dumbledore if he stll comes back?
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To save Draco.
To give the Order a hidden advantage.
To give Voldemort a false sense of confidence.
To hopefully allow Voldemort to make his fatal miscalculation.
Dumbledores gone in the physical sense, but IMHO messages or instructions to Harry will get passed back and forth as if from a parallel dimension (don't get me started on computer science or string theory, but I've found some videos that explain how Hogwarts could potentially happen in the weird world of Von Neumann).
Luna is a well developed character, for absolutely no reason other than she could be someone sensitive enough to be a medium with the departed spirits? Or just that Harry will fancy her. I'm not sure how, but Luna will figure more in the plot, and that has to be related to his Dreamy or other worldly personality she has.
Note: string theory indicates several other universes exist, it's not just ours.
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| Posted: March 7, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| the mystery is stil on dumbledore's, i guess!(will he really have a come back?) |
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| sallyann22 wrote: |
To save Draco.
To give the Order a hidden advantage.
To give Voldemort a false sense of confidence.
To hopefully allow Voldemort to make his fatal miscalculation.
Dumbledores gone in the physical sense, but IMHO messages or instructions to Harry will get passed back and forth as if from a parallel dimension (don't get me started on computer science or string theory, but I've found some videos that explain how Hogwarts could potentially happen in the weird world of Von Neumann).
Luna is a well developed character, for absolutely no reason other than she could be someone sensitive enough to be a medium with the departed spirits? Or just that Harry will fancy her. I'm not sure how, but Luna will figure more in the plot, and that has to be related to his Dreamy or other worldly personality she has.
Note: string theory indicates several other universes exist, it's not just ours. |
I just have this feeling that his picture won't be of much help.
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Dumbledore is still a great wizard.
Obviously he'll communicate just like Sirius did, and that will be a great assistance.
I'm sure Dumbledore would have "planned" for this moment.
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| Posted: March 9, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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You should take a look at the DIATSSISE theorie, it gives a good explenation... (just google the word "DIATSSISE")
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| You should take a look at the DIATSSISE theorie, it gives a good explenation... (just google the word "DIATSSISE") |
Thank you, Tessa.
I've started reseaching it since you mentioned it. Cheers.
It's nice to have our Snape supporters back on line!!
I've missed you. 
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| Tessa wrote: |
| You should take a look at the DIATSSISE theorie, it gives a good explenation... (just google the word "DIATSSISE") |
Thanks for this theory....great reading stuffs
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| Posted: March 13, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| That is a good theory. It makes sense and could be possible. |
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| Posted: March 13, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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No, it doesn't make sense.
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| No, it doesn't make sense. |
Hes right it does not make any sence. I can point Things out from the book that cancel his theory out.
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I can point Things out from the book that cancel his theory out. |
You can't just say things like that, and then leave us *dangling*. What holes?
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JKR on Dumbledore.
What form does Dumbledore’s Patronus take?
Good question. Can anyone guess? You have had a clue. There was a little whisper there. It is a phoenix, which is very representative of Dumbledore for reasons that I am sure you can guess.
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PiratePunk
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| Posted: June 23, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: |
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That saddest chapter is the last chapter in HPB, yeah why Dumbledore!! You, Snape, you foul, loathsome,evil,little,cockroach!!
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| Posted: July 3, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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yeah, why dumbledore have to killed??
snape is coward!! |
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