The villain in her book has no motivation. All the risks he takes are for nothing, and for whatever reason Harry Potter is the one reason he can't succeed at his plot to......be evil. After book 4 Harry's importance should have been 0. There is no reason why Voldemort couldn't have simply walked up to Harry and murdered him, ensuring victory. Of course, that would ruin the simple forumula that J.K uses for all of her books. He is a 2 dimensional character with no real motivations, and Harry, his two dimensional foil, always chooses the right path, never deviating. This is not the character of a human being, this is the character of a fairy tale hero in a poorly written childrens book. All her social themes are contrived and don't really make any real point. Everything that every character does is very predictable, and the writing itself is sub standard. J.K Rowling has no place aong the great fictions writers of our time such as Isaac Asimov, Harlen Ellison, Ray Bradbury, and many others, though I do believe she would be suited in a discussion between her and the author of "Go, Spot, Go".
Because you are uneducated, in the fourth grade, or, more likely, both and because her book has succeeded in selling on hype alone, not on the merit of her writing.
You really are a rude person, why would you come onto this site just to proclaim how much you hate J.K. Rowling, when this site is clearly because of how much everyone likes her work. Honestly you probably haven't read the books, and i doubt anyone here is interested in your mumbo-jumbo about her being a bad writer.
The villain in her book has no motivation. All the risks he takes are for nothing, and for whatever reason Harry Potter is the one reason he can't succeed at his plot to......be evil. After book 4 Harry's importance should have been 0. There is no reason why Voldemort couldn't have simply walked up to Harry and murdered him, ensuring victory. Of course, that would ruin the simple forumula that J.K uses for all of her books. He is a 2 dimensional character with no real motivations, and Harry, his two dimensional foil, always chooses the right path, never deviating. This is not the character of a human being, this is the character of a fairy tale hero in a poorly written childrens book. All her social themes are contrived and don't really make any real point. Everything that every character does is very predictable, and the writing itself is sub standard. J.K Rowling has no place aong the great fictions writers of our time such as Isaac Asimov, Harlen Ellison, Ray Bradbury, and many others, though I do believe she would be suited in a discussion between her and the author of "Go, Spot, Go".
I do agree with yyou on one point. When I finished it, especially the epilogue, I started going "that was a four thousand page fairy tale." Good vs. Evil, love vs. hate, all that, it was the central theme. The characters never really developed, and a seven volume series with nearly totally static characters is a bit odd. Nobody expects Potter to be one of the epics of all time because it has a rich, multilayered story with lots of symbolism. This isn't Lord of the Flies, there's not an abundance of hidden meanings and allegory. This isn't Fahrenheit 451, it's not that adventerous and it doesn't really deal with and predict human issues like that. This isn't even as multilayered as some works that Stephen King has done, which are kind of unintentionally exploratory because it reaches so far into the human mind to find what we all fear. What it is is a good, solid fantasy/adventure escape fiction. I disagree with you that she's not a very good writer. She uses descriptive language that captivates, and was able to tie seven books together into one reasonably streamlined chain of events, even if that chain includes a fair amount of repitition. Harry vs. Voldemort in every single book except number three and kind of in six? I'll give you that. But what she did do was create a totally different world that people can escape into, she created something from scratch and it was a masterful work. Hogwarts is one of the best described places I've ever read, at least on that large a scale. That's where Bradbury didn't match up, that's wehre George Orwell didn't match up, their plots were great and the allegory, and the places where events took place may have been allright, but it wasn't anywhere close to Hogwarts. It comes down to escape literature vs. interprative literature. If you want to just sit down and read something fro fun, go for Potter. If you want something a little more meaningful and more dealing with human nature and whatnot, pick up any of the authors you mentioned. It's a matter of preference, but I would say that the majority of people recognize Rowling for what she is, a great fantasy writer that puts out enjoyable, if not very realistic books. _________________ "If you're going through hell, keep going."
Because you are uneducated, in the fourth grade, or, more likely, both and because her book has succeeded in selling on hype alone, not on the merit of her writing.
And the people on this site have not just decided, "oh thats a really popular book, lets read it."
Most of the people on this site have been reading it since they were children, growing with the books and the characters in them, and honestly, you could do with some lessons from the books, perhaps on being a decent person.
Because you are uneducated, in the fourth grade, or, more likely, both and because her book has succeeded in selling on hype alone, not on the merit of her writing.
And the people on this site have not just decided, "oh thats a really popular book, lets read it."
Most of the people on this site have been reading it since they were children, growing with the books and the characters in them, and honestly, you could do with some lessons from the books, perhaps on being a decent person.
Honestly. I didn't read the HP books because they were popular. I've been reading them since I was 8! _________________
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And I must say you have no life if you join a forum just to bash about the theme. Please... if you love those other authors so much go make a forum for them. _________________
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I wasn't being mean. The only way he couldn't have heard of any of those writers would be if he was uneducated or still in grade school. It isn't my fault that being either of those is undesirable.
Escapism? This is far too unoriginal to be escapism. Let me outline the Plot of Harry Potter.
Young, seemingly unimportant Harry Potter is discovered to be an extraordinary, one of a kind, powerful wizard, who is the only hope of saving the new wizard world he finds himself in. He meets Dumbledore, an old, wise man who is a master of wizardry, which harry is discovered to be a prodigious at. Dumbledore allows himself to be martyred by Snape, Voldemorts right hand man and apprentice, so that Harry may defeat Voldemort who wants to destroy good. After Dumbledore's death the Harry steps up and fulfils his destiny as the savior of wizardry, and defeats Voldemort, bringing balance back to the wizard world.
Now, let me outline the plot of Star Wars
Young, seemingly unimportant Luke Skywalker is discovered to be an extraordinary, one of a kind, powerful master of the force, who is the only hope of saving the new world of the force he finds himself in. He meets Obi-Wan Kenobi, an old, wise man who is a master of the force, which harry is discovered to be a prodigious at. Obi-Wan allows himself to be martyred by Darth Vader, The Emperor’s right hand man and apprentice, so that Harry may defeat the Emperor who wants to destroy good. After Obi-Wan's death Luke steps up and fulfils his destiny as the savior of the light side of the force, and defeats the Emperor, bringing balance back to the force.
Now, to her supposedly extraordinary ability to be descriptive in her writing. You actually believe she is a better figurative writer then Ray Bradbury? Let’s see:
Books bombarded Montag’s shoulders, his arms, his upturned face. A book landed, almost obediently, like a white pigeon, in his hands, wings fluttering. In the dim wavering light a page hung open and it was like a snowy feather, the words delicately painted thereon. In all the rush and fervor, Montag had only an instant to read a line, but it blazed as if stamped there with fiery steel. – Fahrenheit 451, Ray Bradbury
He was a big, beefy man with hardly any neck, although he did have a very large mustache. J.K Rowling, Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone
No contest.
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u r a complete jackass u probably some lil 9 year old that has nutin better to do than to come onto a HP forum and trash the author and u call us uneducated Harry isnt in Star Wars and Obi-wan is not the Emperors righthand man
u r a complete jackass u probably some lil 9 year old that has nutin better to do than to come onto a HP forum and trash the author and u call us uneducated Harry isnt in Star Wars and Obi-wan is not the Emperors righthand man
u r a complete jackass u probably some lil 9 year old that has nutin better to do than to come onto a HP forum and trash the author and u call us uneducated Harry isnt in Star Wars and Obi-wan is not the Emperors righthand man
Get ur facts right deuce bag
Realist wrote:
Obi-Wan allows himself to be martyred by Darth Vader, The Emperor’s right hand man and apprentice
Not only do you fail at writing english, you fail at reading it too.
w.e. and how i write is faster than typing out every single word in exact english
It may be faster, but it is wrong. Not to suggest that I believe you could write a coherent post in English, even if you took all day writing it. Ignorance is no excuse for failure.
actually ya i can im an all A student in Honors English classes
This is a run on sentence and has no punctuation. Also, I didn’t realize that Grade schools have multiple english classes for a student to take at one time.
This is an internet forum. Most members don't care about punctuation here, whether they're capable of it or not.
Even if he cared he couldn't properly punctuate his posts. He is obviously very young and does not know what he is talking about. Also, the internet is no excuse for being ignorant. By the way, I would say that writing ability is very important in a discussion about an Author's worth as a writer.
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