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Avada Kedavra

A corruption of "abracadabra" which was used as a Healing Spell to drive disease from the patient's body in the Middle Ages. Its likely source is either the Arabic "abra kadabra" (may the things be destroyed), or the Aramaic "abhadda kedhabhra" (disappear with these words).

The Killing Curse. It requires a strong bit of magic behind it; the incantation alone is not enough for the spell to work. When cast effectively, Avada Kedavra kills instantaneously, producing a blinding flash of green light but leaving no mark on the victim's body. There is no way to block or counter the Killing Curse, and the only people ever to survive it are Harry Potter and Tom Riddle. Avada Kedavra is one of the three Unforgivable Curses and its use against another human being is punishable by a life sentence in Azkaban.

I didnt know Tom Riddle survived a killing curse, if so when did this happen?
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 6:30 am Post subject:

yeah in a way he did survive it... come to think of it...
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when?
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 6:37 am Post subject:

no.. right the wand backfired? and if he was doing an avada on harry, then the avada bounced back on him. yet he didnt die... so yeah, in a way he did survive the killing curse.

tom riddle and harry potter: the boys who lived.
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vegable where did u get that information?
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Mugglenet encyclopedia, in the list of spells, under "avada kadavra"
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ahhk i was gonna say that if u found it on wikipedia, dont believe it haha.
But notice that it says Tom Riddle not Lord Voldemort, surely if they were talking about it when the curse backfired they would say Lord Voldemort.
But other than that i can't think of when Tom Riddle survived it
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yeah i was thinking that, it sounds more like they mean he survived it in his younger days!

but i really am not sure, unless they know something we dont id say half blood princess is more than likely right
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sounds more like he survived in younger days but i doubt it.. otherwise harry surviving it wouldnt have been such a big deal since it had happened before

2 reasons voldy didnt die from it.. 1 im guessing it wasnt as strong cuz it was a counter basically.. and secondly .. horcruxes

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 9:55 am Post subject:

probably... never thought that it being a counter curse would be less powerful. but im inclined to believe that the effect is the same, counter or not. its the horcrux bit that saved him.
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I just don't see Voldy making an accidental horocrux out of Harry. It is a ferocious bit of magic and not easily done. I would imagine it takes all of one's concentration and facilities to correctly inact it.

And if horocruxes can be made by accident, wouldn't you have tons of them hanging around? I mean, lots of people have killed with the Avada Kedavra. Under that theory, Pettigrew may have accidentally made one of the cauldron after killing Diggory. I just don't see it.

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 11:21 am Post subject:

well harry's is a special case. never before in history has an avada rebounded upon the perpetrator.. so it is possible that the effects include the transferring of your soul to the person upon whom the curse was targeted at.
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I suppose that is possible. Perhaps that would explain why Voldemort didn't die. However, even if Harry is a Horocrux, you know Snape (or Lupin) will come along and provide information, a way, or the means of Harry not having to die in order to kill Voldemort. It is all kind of given away by the book cover. (look up). They are in a meeting, so we assume the final battle between the two and they are both looking up and trying to grasp something OR Harry is try to grasp it and voldemort is trying to repel it. Either way, if Harry is a horocrux, the picture likely follows the scene just after Voldemort reveals that fact to him and Harry is prepared to die in order to kill voldemort. Along comes someone/something to the rescue. Provided by Snape or Lupin certainly (very long essay on why that is, so I will spare you).

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 11:31 am Post subject:

oh well, i still believe that harry is a horcrux and i like my own version of the ending.. so ill stick to that.
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eheh...and I'll allow you to do that.

CRUCIO!

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 11:37 am Post subject:

*but halfbloodprincess wasnt hit*

poor boy, cant do the unforgivable curse...
you have to mean it. you have to want to torture...

let me show you.. CRUCIO!

*and wickedboy is writhing and twisting on the ground in pain*
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umm...that wasn't pain you were witnessing...

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

hahahha!

and what might it be? pleasure? no way... i can do legilimency and i can sense the pain you are feeling! you are just too proud to admit it, wickedboy! Twisted Evil

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tut tut...I would think you of all people would know that there is little difference between pleasure and pain, Bella.

Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject:

i know that there is no pleasure in the spell im administering to you.
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Yes I know...keep going, please. A little to the left if you would be so kind.

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I think it's just funny how she took the most famous magic words and changed them a bit into the most deadly spell.
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Posts: 17157 · Posted: July 12, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

well the "may these things be destroyed" translation fits with it being a killing curse. I wonder what made her change the b's to v's...sounds really cool
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Posts: 28373 · Posted: July 12, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject:

yes jaden... i was actually expecting mortus or something to be the killing curse.

stop pretending to be all macho wickedboy. Rolling Eyes

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it depends where she translated it from. in the middle ages "abracadabra" was used as a healing spell. and the arabic "abra kadabra" means "may things be destroyed" as you rightly said. but it could also be from the aramic, "abhadda kedhabhra" which means "disappear with these words"
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