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ick723
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: another killing curse? Reply with quote

i was wondering how mrs. weasley killed off bella...surely she didnt use an unforgivable curse cuz that is definatly not like molly.
also, how does dumbledore expect harry to kill voldemort once the horcruxes are destroyed? because i know dumbledore would have harry use the avada kadavra
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stab him with the Gryffindor sword? lol


I think DD knew that the spell would backfire and Voldemort would hit himself... again.


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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i guess, but still how does molly kill bella? could she have used avada kadavra?
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh yeah.


If it was my kid, I'd have done it. And I cringe having to kill a fly.
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have done that to her also.. I wish i could have jumped into the book to do it.. as lame as that sounds but really... I swelled with pride when i read that part...
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well JK didn't specify the curse...maybe if a powerful enough stunner hit you straight in the heart it could kill you...I dunno. lol I just got an idea for "Molly makes a horcrux!" fanfiction
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PostPosted: July 24, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet
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PostPosted: July 25, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the idea of a stunning spell that hit her in the heart as we know that molly is pretty powerful in magic.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly, I think she just used the Killing Curse. Molly was pissed man, I think she would've done anything at that point.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She probably used killing curse or also known Avada Kedavra. Fred died, George was without ears. I would also use killing curse even if it's forbidden.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and surely, under attack from an askaban escapee and powerfull death eater she wouldnt be blamed for using an unforgivable curse on her?
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I doubt that, in self defense, Mrs. Weasley ould be held accountable for her actions. Who knows, though.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh that's what i was wondering too. i was like "would mrs.weasley really use a killing curse" and then i was like "after her son died, yeh probably." i was pretty happy when she won that duel though.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, but still, i couldnt see any of the order using a killing curse...i persoanally believe it was just a stunner, but then again, i have my doubts about that.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...i disagree...Lupin told harry to stop being a panzy w/ 'expelliarmus' and at least attempt to stun...i think given no other choice any ootp member would kill...and i think mrs. weasely had every right
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a war people the ministry was being run by death eaters i think it is times like those that laws should be forgotten + Mcgonagol used imperius and so did harry plus cruciatus if balletrix died she either used avada kedavra or somethin else strong i cant see a stun killing neone some of the chracters have been hit by 3 at a time.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ good point. This is war people. It's kill or be killed.

As disturbing as that sounds, it's true. Stunners didn't seem to have much of an impact on Bellatrix, it was them or her. And Mrs. Weasley did what she had to do to protect herself and everyone else. I don't blame her and I wish I had half her courage.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see Molly being held accountable if she used Avada Kedavra to kill Bellatrix. As has been stated, war is kill or be killed...
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know during the last war Arurors were given permission by the minister to use the unforgivable curses. Why would this be any different. Plus she couldn't get in trouble really. There was no "Real" ministry ^.^
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: another killing curse? Reply with quote

i think that there might be
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya but on page 736 american version "Molly Weasley's wand slashed and twirled, and Bellatrix Lestrange's smile faltered and became a snarl. Jets of light flew from both wands, the floor around the witches' feet became hot and cracked; both women were fighting to kill"

when i read that i took 'both fighting to kill' literally.
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PostPosted: July 26, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh, true, you guys make valid points. especially with a pissed off mother in tow, i could see that now.
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PostPosted: July 27, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. Molly didnt use Avada Kedavra. Its not her style and the book says that the curse slipped past Bella's defenses, the killing curse would have screwed her defenses and blasted her apart. Frankly its not hard to believe that a powerful curse by a pissed mother to the heart could kill someone. Plus, she never said the words and as we learned its not easy casting a spell for the first time nonverbally.

2. I dont see why harry didnt just use the killing curse on voldemort in their duel, he'd already used the other 2 unforgivables, and he had more reason than anyone to use it. His job was to kill Voldemort and he goes and tries to DISARM HIM?! wtf was he thinking? he knew there wasnt going to be a graveyard incident again. cmon harry, be a man.

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PostPosted: July 27, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^It is his signature spell and he knew hw would'nt beat voldemort at his own game he had to rely on what he knew about the wand that voldie was Using to save him. I think he could have used any spell....y not that one.
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PostPosted: July 27, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Molly and Bella were 'fighting to kill' and that gave me the impression that they were both using the same spell: the killing curse.
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