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ThE_DaRk_MaRk



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Posted: March 29, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? |
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Ok. So i was thinking. The prophecy talks about one living while the other dies. I keep seeing people saying "there both going to die" They have good theory's don't get me wrong...It's just the theory's (to me) are always cut short because of the prophecy. So cooking my self some soup down stairs i started to think about it...Theres a damn loop hole in the prophecy.
This is just a silly theory of mine. It might or might not be true but fun to discuss.
Harry "the chosen one" will kill off the rest of voldemorts souls has planned. Thats the power that was transfered into him the night he attacked Harry's house. What IF Harry dies fighting the last soul. Then the prophecy comes true. Then (weakened from the battle. He is a feeble little soul.) He is killed by(please don't laugh) Hagrid or Nevil.
Sounds funny but wouldn't it be the ultimate revenge? Hagrid has always been wrong footed his whole life because of what Tom Riddle did that night. It has also impacted is future (he was sent to azkaban) Hagrid has alway been looked down upon his life because Voldemort tricked everyone to him being a murderer.
Nevil would have his revenge on his parents (and he COULD have been the chosen one if Voldemort didn't pick Harry) He (like Harry) had to live his life without parents and are stuck with people who think they were imperfect. ( the Dursleys and Nevil's grandma.)
Thank Voldemort for that. _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken. |
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P4df00t


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Posted: March 29, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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yea something like that is deffinately going to happen, minus maybe harry dying _________________ but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it. Those who have leadership thrust upon them ... and take the mantle because they must, to find to their own surprise that they wear it well |
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Tessa


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Posted: March 29, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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I think Paintballs theorie is true and Neville actually is the chosen one and not Harry (and to add my theorie: Snape didn't give Voldemort the whole theorie)...
Neville is getting stronger... _________________ Nederlands!! |
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Posted: March 29, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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The only thing that troubles me about your point is. Dumbledore says that Harry IS the chosen one. He was marked.
Do you have any ideas on that? _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken. |
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P4df00t


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Posted: March 29, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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im betting that by the end of book 7, everything DD has ever said will either be right or wrong, and im sure that everything he said is right. _________________ but perhaps those who are best suited to power are those who have never sought it. Those who have leadership thrust upon them ... and take the mantle because they must, to find to their own surprise that they wear it well |
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chunice


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Posted: March 30, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I don't mean to be disrespectful but if Hagird or Neville kills Harry by ACCIDENT, this is what I picture happening.
"Aye, Sorry 'Arry fer killin' yu off ye know? Bloody di'in't mean any 'arm"
But you're doing some really good brainstorming!
It sounds like you have potter speculation fever!
105 more days till the movie. _________________
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ThE_DaRk_MaRk



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I don't mean to be disrespectful but if Hagird or Neville kills Harry by ACCIDENT, this is what I picture happening.
"Aye, Sorry 'Arry fer killin' yu off ye know? Bloody di'in't mean any 'arm"
But you're doing some really good brainstorming!
It sounds like you have potter speculation fever!
105 more days till the movie. |
LOL!!! you gave me such a good laugh!!!!! LOL
Sorry 'Arry lmao!
that was good! _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken. |
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icesk8erqueen8


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Posted: March 30, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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come on guys, we all know that neville is goin to be the HERO
but it is a good theory _________________
I Love The Rev <3
Ohhhhhhh shit! whats in the bucket..... - The Rev <3 |
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Your Worst Nightmare


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Posted: March 31, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| icesk8erqueen8 wrote: |
come on guys, we all know that neville is goin to be the HERO
but it is a good theory |
I dont think Neville will take all the glory but he will play a big part...so i donno..becase see harrys and nevilles destinies could have been switched so easily if Voldemorrt just decided to choose to kill Nevilles parents..
so i donno _________________
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Posted: April 2, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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DD said that Harry was the "Chosen One" we know that because Harry was Marked. If Neville was marked then he would be the chosen one. The Prophecy states".... And the Dark Lord will mark him as his Equal...." That right there means that Neville CANT be the "Chosen One." And, i cant remember, but I think that Harry never told Neville about the prophcey..I think Neville will play a BIG role in the upcoming book but I dont think he hold all the Glory. _________________ Man becomes man only by his intelligence, but he is man only by his heart.
Henri Frederic Amiel
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." Harry Potter |
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Arwen


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Posted: April 3, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Harry is the Chosen One not because of the mark but because Voldemort chose him to be the one and marked him. Neville I believe will play a bigger part in book 7. Showing Voldemort that he could have made a mistake. _________________ Name: Arwen Black
House: Gryffindor
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Tessa


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Posted: April 3, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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But what if Neville is the chosen one and Harry is just a trap set up by DD? (or bait for a trap).
I don't know, I think either Harry or Neville will die. _________________ Nederlands!! |
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Posted: April 3, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah Lord Volde Marked Harry so that means it is Harry as the Chosen one... _________________ Man becomes man only by his intelligence, but he is man only by his heart.
Henri Frederic Amiel
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." Harry Potter |
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SupaFreak

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Posted: April 5, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I think there is a possibility even though how remote it would seem that maybe Neville will be the one to kill LV. Maybe he'll be too concentrated on Harry, looking the wrong way and Neville will just pop up and hit him one in the back.
Dumbledore may have interpreted it wrong in the first place because even though LV picked Harry and well we know how that turned out for him, it didn't kill him altogether. So it could still be Neville the one to do it in the end. |
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ilya150


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Posted: April 5, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| LV didn't know who to chose. 50% chance he chose the right one. How would DD know if he chose the right one. The only reason Neville isn't so smart is he takes drugs. (everyone knows he grows weed in Herbology) LMAO. |
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Posted: April 5, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ilya150 wrote: |
| The only reason Neville isn't so smart is he takes drugs. (everyone knows he grows weed in Herbology) LMAO. |
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Posted: April 5, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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no way harry is def. the chosen one there is no question about it. Voldemort MADE him the chosen one because he picked the one he thought would be the most fear to him. He picked harry because harry was like him THEREFORE harry is def the chosen one.
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Posted: April 5, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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thats what ive been trying to tell them _________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher |
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Dumbledore made up the prophecy to draw Voldemort out and give himself and Harry a better chance to kill Voldemort. _________________ Dan Buske |
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Posted: April 7, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? |
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you know what i really do not think that htere is a loop hole in the prophecy.....because i think that j.k.rowling would have thought all of this out befor she put it in the book...or now that i think about it she could have made it that way for pupuse i do not know we will have to read the book and we will all have to see what happense in the harry potter world! _________________ Harry potter RP name: Zabini
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Posted: April 7, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: A loop Hole In the Prophecy? |
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i do no think that there is one _________________ Harry potter RP name: Zabini
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Posted: April 10, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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I enjoyed reading your theory!! and i hadnt realized that before... actually.. i dont look at it as harry may die... the prophecy saying that if one lives the other will die.. that gives me hope that harry will live!! and that makes me a happy little elf!! _________________ NAME: Willow Arbol
HOUSE: Gryffindor
YEAR: seventh
FUTURE PLANS: Auror...what else? |
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Posted: April 10, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| hOuSeLf wrote: |
| I enjoyed reading your theory!! and i hadnt realized that before... actually.. i dont look at it as harry may die... the prophecy saying that if one lives the other will die.. that gives me hope that harry will live!! and that makes me a happy little elf!! |
lol well i agree with you , we all know that harry is the chosen one and will not die then right?
-KG _________________
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Cmacd

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Posted: April 11, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I am rooting for harry to be the chosen one, but as far as being "marked", we know for sure harry has a scar, but we don't know for sure about neville - he is definately scarred mentally by the torture of his parents, but do we know he does not have some physical mark we haven't seen yet. |
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