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Posts: 947 · Posted: July 30, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: Harry in Slytherin - THE TRUTH?

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Posts: 25871 · Posted: July 30, 2008 4:45 am Post subject:

The piece of Voldemort's soul was inside of Harry's head. The diary wasn't in Ginny's head. Not until she was already at Hogwarts was Tom Riddle able to possess her. And it wasn't until the end he was able to babble about her soul and his soul and all that nonsense.
So when Ginny first cme to Hogwarts, she was untainted. She didn't even have the diary with her when she was sorted, her diary was moist likely stashed away with her belongings.
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Posts: 947 · Posted: July 30, 2008 4:56 am Post subject:

Opinion respected! But as Hermione says in DH, Ginny was attached to the diary. Ron tries to say something and she says, not with touch, with her soul. So I doubt the distance fact would matter. Also, we can't really know when Ginny's taint started since we don't know how much time she spent in the summer writing in Tom's diary. She might have even gotten slightly controlled before School started!

All this is just "Theories and Speculation" of course, in fact, it's just a nice idea to see how much Harry and Ginny would fit with each other, since they'd get the same thing happen to 'em in the Sorting. I doubt many students can say they were nearly sorted in Slytherin because they "Had some guy's soul inside them". Very Happy

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Posts: 25871 · Posted: July 30, 2008 5:06 am Post subject:

When they first leave to go to Hogwarts, Ginny almost forgets her diary. If she was that connected with it, she wouldn't have forgotten it in the first place.
Once she realized the power it had over her, she ditched it in the toilet. So obviously the power of it wasn't that strong.
The pull was obviously a gradual one, as we see her throughout the book decrease in health, as Percy gets her to drink the pepper-up potion... and she does try to go to Ron and Harry for help before Percy interrupts. But she never tries to go for them for help again.
By the end it isl strong enough that he didn't need to communicate with her through it to be able to make her paint on the wall and "kidnap" her.
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Posts: 947 · Posted: July 30, 2008 5:38 am Post subject:

Bah! Fine, fine, I give up. Very Happy

But you still can't deny the thing about Harry. It could be a theory why he was thought to be put in Slytherin, no?
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Posts: 5009 · Posted: July 30, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject:

Well yeah.. but he had some slytherin traits probably mostly do to the fact that Voldemort was in his head..

The reason he was put into gryffindor is because he 'asked' the hat to.. the difference between him and voldemort.
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Posts: 2145 · Posted: August 1, 2008 11:04 am Post subject:

[quote="GinnyX"]When they first leave to go to Hogwarts, Ginny almost forgets her diary. If she was that connected with it, she wouldn't have forgotten it in the first place.quote]

I almost forgot about that part; where she almost forgot the diary.
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Posts: 3279 · Posted: August 1, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:

but i dont think the hat wouldve considered putting her into slytherin unless the diary was with her during sorting.
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Posts: 2145 · Posted: August 1, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject:

I don't think she would've been put in Slytherin either way. She's a Weasley and Weasleys just DON'T get put in Slytherin. Even Percy for that matter...
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I thought it was obvious that the piece of Voldemort inside Harry caused the hat to believe he belonged to Slytherin... Just like that Parseltongue thing.
Just as GinnyX said- the diary wasn't in Ginny's heart.
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I don't know, I think Harry had a little Slytherin in him with or without the piece of Voldemort's soul. He did end up wanting power which is a Slytherin trait, he just didn't want it for Slytherin reasons. He wanted it to help people instead of kill.
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This could prove, though, that perhaps JK Rowling had the entire series of books all planned out ever since she began writing the first book. Because if she was referring to that soul that was inside of Harry Potter in the first book when he was getting sorted then obviously WE, as the readers, wouldn't have known that until the Half Blood Primce but JK Rowling did because she had planned it ALL out and that is pretty cool. I mean, imagine having all of that information crammed inside your head before you even write the first book, never mind the last one lol.
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I think she had that idea in mind when she wrote the first book, like the thing with parseltongue in CoS.
Well, yeah, it's kinda cool, but I think it is normal for an author to now the rough story and ending. Friend of mine writes a series of books himself and he knows what will happen in every book, he just has to write it out and add maybe some things to the story. But he showed me a piece of paper with summaries for all four books.
Anyway, maybe he is just a little bit Slytherin, but the fact that he has the audacity to stand up against the hat and to tell it that he doesn't want to be in Slytherin is pretty Gryffindorish I think.
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Well, since Harry wasn't at the Sorting, Ginny might've been a hard decision because she already started writing in the diary, but I dunno...
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Posts: 947 · Posted: August 8, 2008 12:50 am Post subject:

The fanfic describes Ginny's life throughout the entire book series, from SS to DH's epilogue. Very Happy

I have the link to it in my "Best Fanfics Ever" topic, at Flourish n' Blotts.

As for if she had the information in her head since she wrote the first book...

If you ask me, JK made a schedule of sorts in her writing software that would remind her of her entire plan while she was writing, and would make small changes here and then. (e.g, she said she was planning to kill Mr. Weasley in the end, but changed her mind) That's what I'd do. Keep the info written down and check it up whenever I need to.
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Well said Evil Love is Stronger thats what i think Smile

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