First off, I would like to say Hi to everyone. Pretty cool forum we got here.
And I hope I don't get thrown off for not having oput this in the HP! section.
Okay, we know that it was Quirrel that was after the stone, but why does the book mention, before we knew that it was Quirrel, that Snape was trying to figure out about Quirrel’s Anti-Dark spell, besides trying to get past Fluffy? Why would he only want to know about his contributions to guarding the stone and not the rest of the teachers’? Should we assume that he already knows about those and all he needed was Quirrel‘s? This is what I think made the gang believe that Snape knew all he needed after Harry thought Quirrel had given up to Snape and after they believe that it could have been Snape behind the cloak and to whom Hagrid told how to get past Fluffy?
Now, when we find out that it was Quirrel, and NOT Snape:
Quirrel says that on Halloween he let the troll in to be able to go to the Third Floor and find out what it was that was protecting the stone. But wouldn’t he already know what was protecting it since he is one of the teachers that helped to protect with the other enchantments? Or did he say this because he found out AFTERWARDS that something else, Fluffy, had been put there afterwards, without the teacher’s knowledge, and he wanted to know what it was so he could get past it? What does he mean when Snape suspected him and tried to head him off? What is the whole deal with Snape/Quirrel?
This is something that I am confused about. Or can someone explain it in detail?
This is how I see the plot of HPaTSS…..
Quirrel tried to steal the stone at the beginning, but was not successful because it had been moved to Hogwarts. Having been taken to the castle, we acknowledge that the teachers, Quirrel, one of them, put different enchantments and spells on it to guard it once it had already been put in the 3rd floor. I assume that they all did it at once and so he, Quirrel, should know how to get past each of the other teacher’s spells/enchantments. HE is trying to steal it, but THEN finds out that Fluffy has also been there to protect it, which becomes the ONLY obstacle in his to the Stone. Once, Hagrid lets slip the secret, he goes to the 3rd floor to try to get the stone.
Now Snape… it was believed that it was him all along that was trying to get the stone. From the text in the book, we come to the understanding that he was trying to get Quirrel to tell him how to break his Anti-Dark spell AND how to get past Fluffy, which it is assumed he later finds out when Hagrid accidently tells him. Knowing that and finally breaking Quirrel, he goes to the stone.
I'm kind of confused by your question but I'll answer to the best of my ability.
Maybe Quirrell didn't know the obstacles because they set them up backwards:Dumbledore and the Mirror,Quirrell and the Troll,Snape and potions,Mcgonagall and chess,Flitwick and charmed keys,Sprout and Devils snare,Hagrid and fluffy.(Can't remember the exact order)
So if they did Quirrell and Snape wouldn't have known what obstacles were in the way.
The mirror was put there last . . . after Harry found it.
For the others, I'm assuming that they were all put there is the backwards order like you said, and no teacher knew how to break the other spells. I would assum that DD would be the only person who could get there safely. THis not only makes multiple obstacles for the person looking for the stone, but for those protecting it as well in case one of them wanted to get to it.
Snape was never trying to get Quirrell to tell him how to get through his obstacle. Harry assumed that this was what he was trying to do when he heard them arguing in the dark forest, but Snape was really trying to figure out what Quirrell was up to. He suspected that Quirrell was after the stone.
I think that answers your question, but it was all over the place so I'm not sure. _________________
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The mirror was put there last . . . after Harry found it.
For the others, I'm assuming that they were all put there is the backwards order like you said, and no teacher knew how to break the other spells. I would assum that DD would be the only person who could get there safely. THis not only makes multiple obstacles for the person looking for the stone, but for those protecting it as well in case one of them wanted to get to it.
Snape was never trying to get Quirrell to tell him how to get through his obstacle. Harry assumed that this was what he was trying to do when he heard them arguing in the dark forest, but Snape was really trying to figure out what Quirrell was up to. He suspected that Quirrell was after the stone.
I think that answers your question, but it was all over the place so I'm not sure.
I guess this clarifies that none of the teachers knew exactly how to break each other's spells. I guess it would be safe to assume that Quirrel broke through everything...all the way to the Mirror of Erised. All Quirrel needed was to find out how to get past Fluffy, which leads me to believe that he already knew of the dog, but not how to get past it. Snape just suspected that he was trying to get the stone, and so he headed him off on Halloween and so on, right?
The mirror was put there last . . . after Harry found it.
For the others, I'm assuming that they were all put there is the backwards order like you said, and no teacher knew how to break the other spells. I would assum that DD would be the only person who could get there safely. THis not only makes multiple obstacles for the person looking for the stone, but for those protecting it as well in case one of them wanted to get to it.
Snape was never trying to get Quirrell to tell him how to get through his obstacle. Harry assumed that this was what he was trying to do when he heard them arguing in the dark forest, but Snape was really trying to figure out what Quirrell was up to. He suspected that Quirrell was after the stone.
I think that answers your question, but it was all over the place so I'm not sure.
I guess this clarifies that none of the teachers knew exactly how to break each other's spells. I guess it would be safe to assume that Quirrel broke through everything...all the way to the Mirror of Erised. All Quirrel needed was to find out how to get past Fluffy, which leads me to believe that he already knew of the dog, but not how to get past it. Snape just suspected that he was trying to get the stone, and so he headed him off on Halloween and so on, right?
Yeah... as Zenny said, Snape wasn't try ing to find out how to get past Quirell's obstacle, he was just trying to ask Quirell where his loyalties lay. He was suspicious. Quirell knew about Fluffy, but not how to get past him. He was able to get that out of Hagrid when he was all liquored up at the pub. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
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