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claymore
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PostPosted: June 30, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Michael Gambon VS. Richard Harris Review Reply with quote

This video is hilarious!!!!!!

For those of you who hate Michael Gambon as Dumbledore, you will really appreciate this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkAFjVWJy4c
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PostPosted: June 30, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omg! This was so funny, yet true at the same time.

"Here's where he messes up, Dumbledore isn't afraid of fire." XD
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PostPosted: June 30, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm the only person that likes Gambon as Dumbledore.
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PostPosted: June 30, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kar wrote:
I think I'm the only person that likes Gambon as Dumbledore.


Really? I'm interested in why you like him, would you mind explaining?
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PostPosted: June 30, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I would also like to know why you prefer Gambon. To each his own right?

For me, I prefer Harris, because he captures the Dumbledore from the book quite nicely.

Dumbledore isn't mean, he doesn't raise his voice, yell, or make big shocking movements. He is always always polite, even when he is facing Tom Riddle. He is always in control. And when he talks to Harry, he usually has a twinkle in his eye. I love that part....the twinkle in his eye. Harris would always give Harry a quick wink, and his eyes did sparkle just like Dumbledore. My favourite scene with Richard Harris is the one at the very end of Chamber of Secrets when he gives Harry a 'secret wink' while he's talking to Lucius Malfoy. Brillaint. Right there, is exactly how Dumbledore should be.

I don't think Gambon understands Dumbledore. I think he thinks "Dumbledore is a great wizard with extraordinary ability and power" and that's it. That's great, but that's not all. Great power doesn't mean that he's loud and booming. And I can't recall Gambon ever winking at Harry. And if he did, I'm sure I thought it was creepy...

One thing that I don't think either Harris nor Gambon quite captured though is Dumbledore's quirky side. You know...the side that says "Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!" So I guess no Dumbledore will ever be perfect to the one in the book...but I thought Harris was pretty close.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg I agree with that vid. Dumbledore never gets mad, and Harry is never afraid of him. yet both of those were butchered in that one scene. and I never realized before how Gambondore really does look like he'd smell lol.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the best freaking video. It's hilarious and true!

lol, the best line has nothing to do with Dumbledore, though.

"We were so excited to go to the theatre and see all our favorite characters on the big screen! Harry and Ron and Hermee-on or hairmee-own or Confused however we said it before the movies came out . . ."

The sad truth is that this is true. I didn't know a single person who said it right . . . even having read GoF. I pronounced it Her-moan-ee, but before I read GoF I pronounced it Her-moan. My beat friend pronounced it Hermee-own. That Whole io bit was hard to grasp, even after seeing the phonetic spelling of it. Even after watching the first film, I had to have someone break down the spelling for me.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kar wrote:
I think I'm the only person that likes Gambon as Dumbledore.


no you`re not. I like him too.

I can`t understand why so many people don`t like him. I`m sure he does what the director tells him to. And he`s not a bad actor at all.
Richard Harris looked more like a grandpa to me. But Dumbledore although kind and caring is supposed to be pictured as the best wizard ever. Superior than the others and at the same time not arrogant. I think Gambon does a better job doing this.
And when is he loud and booming? I don`t know. Maybe I had imagined Dumbledore a bit different.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also like Gambon. I think Harris and Gambon play different sides of Dumbledore. In the beginning of the series Dumbledore was more of a quiet, grandfatherly guy and Harris got that. I think Gambon does a better job of the quirky, eccentric side of him. And Dumbledore is involved in a bit more physical action later in the series, which I can't see Harris having done as well.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ I do think of Gambon as being "loud and booming" - just look at the way he asked Harry if he put his name in the goblet of fire. He screamed it at him.

In the book, he asks him once, and very politely, and Harry's word was good enough for him. He didn't show any worry on his face...he was calm and wanted to deal with the situation rationally. In fact, that's how Dumbledore deals with all situations. He's calm. He's polite. He's even cheerful. Even at the moment of his death, he was polite to the four death eaters that surrounded him, and greeted them all politely. I can't picture Gambon acting this way. I could easily picture Harris doing this though.

You make a good point though - obviously that Goblet of Fire scene got past the director. In fact, the director must have been happy with it. Which makes you wonder...maybe it's not Gambon who misunderstands Dumbledore...maybe he's just doing what he was told to do.

I think I'm more sensitive to the casting of Dumbledore than a lot of people because I really really felt like I understood Dumbledore in the books - I felt like I understood his character really well, and he grew on me like no other character. I love him even more than I love Harry. That being said, it's really hard for me to see Gambon butcher the character that I know so well...I dislike Gambon to the point where I'm actually looking forward to seeing him die in movie 6, lol!
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously i never like Mikes rude Dumbledorish behaiviour. It doesn't really fits with the character.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gambon wasn't too bad in movie 3 (I loved the way he distracts Fudge with the non-existant strawberries and all that...), or in 5 (look at how he speaks to Harry at the end of 5! Very touching imo). Basically, it's the movie 4 scenes that got him the bad rating.

I recall reading somewhere that the director of GoF (Mike Newell) told Gambon to be like that in the cup scene, and told him he wasn't being angry enough and had him do it over again until he was satisfied. It seems that he's the one who ruined it...

I agree that Harris did a better job; although that could be since I was already used to him from the first two movies.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I heard the same thing about that scene in GoF. People tend to forget.. The director's job is to direct. If the dorector thought he was being too aggresive, he'd have said something. So I just can't lay all the fault with the actor this time.
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PostPosted: July 1, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok maybe I don't so much hate Michael Gambon as I hate the Dumbledore for which he is the poster boy. but...what would the director have done if he refused to play it that way? get yet another dumbledore? he could have fought it if he really understood the character. which I don't think he does.
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PostPosted: July 2, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

claymore wrote:
^^ I do think of Gambon as being "loud and booming" - just look at the way he asked Harry if he put his name in the goblet of fire. He screamed it at him.


But do you honestly think that Gambon suddenly though: "Oh, right. I`m just going to yell at that Potter boy now."? Even if movie differs from the book, those ar enot actors who change it. It was the director or whoever who told him to run in tht room, grab him and yell.
If someone else would have told him to not do it, he wouldn`t. I guess they wanted him to be loud in that scene. Just like GinnyX said too.
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PostPosted: July 8, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gambon needs to be more gentle, and friendly. I have never once heard him chuckle, and I think a true dumbledore would chuckle at things...
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PostPosted: July 9, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, Michael Gambon in GoF was doing his job, i mean the director told him to do the scene like that and he did. He can't decide if the scene is too agressive for the book's Dumbledore or not.
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PostPosted: July 10, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap, that was hilarious! Although I never had an issue with Michael Gambon being Dumbledore, I have always thought he was put in ridiculous robes. But I wonder if that was on purpose? I mean, J.K. Rowling said Dumbledore was gay, so maybe that's why he was put in those robes? Just a theory.
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PostPosted: July 11, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply Just wrote:
Holy crap, that was hilarious! Although I never had an issue with Michael Gambon being Dumbledore, I have always thought he was put in ridiculous robes. But I wonder if that was on purpose? I mean, J.K. Rowling said Dumbledore was gay, so maybe that's why he was put in those robes? Just a theory.


Yeah, but Dumbledore was just as gay when Richard Harris played him...but they still dressed Harris nicely! LOL, they're just trying to mess with us, is my theory!
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PostPosted: July 11, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really understand why they decided to have a complete artistic overhaul on Dumbledore. Beard, robes, and demeanor. I'm sure the director knows that this new guy acts differently from Harris, yet he still allows it. Why did they dirty him up? He looks like a freaking hobo now, never mind how he acts.
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PostPosted: July 15, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="claymore"] And I can't recall Gambon ever winking at Harry. And if he did, I'm sure I thought it was creepy...

Yes he did wink twice that I remember in the Prisoner of Azkaban when he told Hermoine to turn the time turner three times, also I think he did it at the end when they came back into the hospital and they told told him that they did it and he said "did what".

But anyway, I thought the video was so funny, I laughed through the whole thing. I also dislike the new Dumbledore, even with a different actor they could have at least given him the same robes and beard that Richard Harris had. Although I'm not sure that it was entirely the actors fault, the director did most of it, and I have seen Gambon in some other movies and he's not a bad actor at all.
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