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cleo
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

It's fun to see how Rowling portrayed Harry who looked like James but rather resembled Lily inside.

1. Harry inherited Lily's eyes. (Eyes are often viewed as the window of our souls.)

2. Harry hated bullying like his mother did. He despised Snape for warning Lupin that the trouble Neville might cause. He hated Draco for making fun of Neville and Hagrid.

3. He detested dark arts as his mother did.

4. Both Lily and Harry were loyal to their friends. Lily stood up for Snape and Harry stood up for Neville and got back the remembrall for him.

5. Lily tried to mediate the fight between James and Snape. Harry tried to mediate the fight between Snape and Sirius in the kitchen in Ootp.

6. Harry wasn't as funny or arrogant as James but he was as mature as his mother at the age of 15. It's really rare for a boy.

7. Both Lily and Harry were kind-hearted, they cared a lot about other people's feeling. Lily intented to beg DD to take her sister. She made lots of excuses for Snape and befriended to him when nobody else did. Harry always gentle and kind to others, especially girls, even when he felt annoyed e.g. Hermione, Moody, Mrs Weasley and Tonks.

8. They were both willing to die to protect their love ones.

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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes and with both of his parents it made him a better person. I also like how JK Rowling portrayed Harry
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

cleo wrote:


7. Both Lily and Harry were kind-hearted, they cared a lot about other people's feeling. Lily intented to beg DD to take her sister. She made lots of excuses for Snape and befriended to him when nobody else did. Harry always gentle and kind to others, especially girls, even when he felt annoyed e.g. Hermione, Moody, Mrs Weasley and Tonks.

8. They were both willing to die to protect their love ones.

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moody wasnt a girl..... Confused

or u meant he was nice to him even wwhen annoyed...
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

cleo wrote:
It's fun to see how Rowling portrayed Harry who looked like James but rather resembled Lily inside.

1. Harry inherited Lily's eyes. (Eyes are often viewed as the window of our souls.)

2. Harry hated bullying like his mother did. He despised Snape for warning Lupin that the trouble Neville might cause. He hated Draco for making fun of Neville and Hagrid.

3. He detested dark arts as his mother did.

4. Both Lily and Harry were loyal to their friends. Lily stood up for Snape and Harry stood up for Neville and got back the remembrall for him.

5. Lily tried to mediate the fight between James and Snape. Harry tried to mediate the fight between Snape and Sirius in the kitchen in Ootp.

6. Harry wasn't as funny or arrogant as James but he was as mature as his mother at the age of 15. It's really rare for a boy.

7. Both Lily and Harry were kind-hearted, they cared a lot about other people's feeling. Lily intended to beg DD to take her sister. She made lots of excuses for Snape and befriended to him when nobody else did. Harry always gentle and kind to others, especially girls, even when he felt annoyed e.g. Hermione, Moody, Mrs Weasley and Tonks.

8. They were both willing to die to protect their love ones.

Please add on!


this is great but what all do we know about james? we have snapes side of the story on being bullied. we know harry picked up his dads quidditch expertise. and we know he was loyal to his friends and family. i am sure if we knew more about james we could pick out all of his attributes in harry.
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the part when Moody showed him the old photo of the Original Ootp, who was killed, whose body was found... blab blab blab... he felt disturbing. Tonks had been inquisitive when she first met him but he knew she cared for him. He made Lupin go back to her when she's pregnant.

James might look like a dandy but he got his style. As a quidditch hero with gust and a funny guy, he might be quite attractive to some girls, much more attractive than Snape.
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

I think a lot of Harry's qualities came from both of his parents.
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry did have bad qualities, but he was man enough to admit that and ask for forgiveness when wrong.
That was his best quality for me.
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think he has a lot of his parents' good qualities and some of his very own

i've always felt that having lived with the dursleys made him more sensitive to certain things than any regular guy and it also served him to have an open heart, gave him a really strong sense of justice
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
I think a lot of Harry's qualities came from both of his parents.


I also think that they came from his up-bringing, which he parents had little to do with. If he had been raised by his parents, then I certainly think that his perconality would have been different. He wouldn't have been so humbled for one. He would have had more confidence in himself to start out with, rather than acquiring it in his time at Hogwarts.
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PostPosted: March 27, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ totally agree!!!
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
I think a lot of Harry's qualities came from both of his parents.


I also think that they came from his up-bringing, which he parents had little to do with. If he had been raised by his parents, then I certainly think that his perconality would have been different. He wouldn't have been so humbled for one. He would have had more confidence in himself to start out with, rather than acquiring it in his time at Hogwarts.


Yes, I forgot that DD put him for a couple of reasons at the Dursley's, not only for protection.
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't time to read the book when people around me were crazy about it.

Then a few years ago, 1 day, I rented the dvd of PS from a local store.
I watched it alone. I didn't like Harry at first, especially Dan had that sour expression on his face when he was making breakfast for the Dursley. He looked really jealous and upset when Dudley was presented with huge number of birthday presents.

And then, they went to the zoo. Harry showed his good qualities there. How many people will feel sympathetic towards others when they are in the depth of miseries. Most people are too self-absorbed in their own problems. But Harry felt pity for it and set it free. That ugly filthy snake was not even a warm blood type animal. I fell for him at once.

That's how I started reading the whole series of HP.
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cleo wrote:
I hadn't time to read the book when people around me were crazy about it.

Then a few years ago, 1 day, I rented the dvd of PS from a local store.
I watched it alone. I didn't like Harry at first, especially Dan had that sour expression on his face when he was making breakfast for the Dursley. He looked really jealous and upset when Dudley was presented with huge number of birthday presents.


The boy was a great kid, but he wasn't a saint. Any one would have been jealous of all of the presents that Dudley got.
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ very well said zen
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
cleo wrote:
I hadn't time to read the book when people around me were crazy about it.

Then a few years ago, 1 day, I rented the dvd of PS from a local store.
I watched it alone. I didn't like Harry at first, especially Dan had that sour expression on his face when he was making breakfast for the Dursley. He looked really jealous and upset when Dudley was presented with huge number of birthday presents.


The boy was a great kid, but he wasn't a saint. Any one would have been jealous of all of the presents that Dudley got.


Thats true considering Harry gets bought up with nothing while watching his cousin get spoilt.
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PostPosted: March 28, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How Harry resembled his parents Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
I think a lot of Harry's qualities came from both of his parents.


I also think that they came from his up-bringing, which he parents had little to do with. If he had been raised by his parents, then I certainly think that his perconality would have been different. He wouldn't have been so humbled for one. He would have had more confidence in himself to start out with, rather than acquiring it in his time at Hogwarts.


Although Harry wasn't raised by his parents, he still ended up possessing traits that his parents happened to have. Since he wasn't raised by his parents, this could have been merely coincidence. But I think JKR was trying to show a bit of his parents in him. He still valued things they did, possibly because he was raised the way he was by the Dursleys.
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PostPosted: March 29, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:

The boy was a great kid, but he wasn't a saint. Any one would have been jealous of all of the presents that Dudley got.


I know. But you see, that's the magic Dan has. I disliked the boy at first, and next moment, I fell for him.

So ACTUALLY, it's Dan made me read the book, not Harry Potter!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the whole loyalty to his friends bit came from his father.
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrAzYhArRyPoTtErNeRd62442 wrote:
i think the whole loyalty to his friends bit came from his father.


that is true, one of james best things was his loyalty to his friends, its mentioned many times in the books
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think harry got his fathers:
disregard for rules
loyalty to friends
hot good looks
bravery
quidditch skills
temper?
girl knowldge (lol)

i think harry got his mothers:
eyes (duh)
dislike for bullying
bravery
stuborness (ect. lily refused to go out w/ james, harry refused to abandon his thoery that amlfoy was a deatheater)
dislike for petunia (obviously)
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrAzYhArRyPoTtErNeRd62442 wrote:
i think harry got his fathers:
disregard for rules
loyalty to friends
hot good looks
bravery
quidditch skills
temper?
girl knowldge (lol)

i think harry got his mothers:
eyes (duh)
dislike for bullying
bravery
stuborness (ect. lily refused to go out w/ james, harry refused to abandon his thoery that amlfoy was a deatheater)
dislike for petunia (obviously)


it never once says in the books that he is good looking im sorry to tell you lol
i think his temper comes more from his own because of everything that he had to go through
dislike for petunia? it never says in the books that lily dislikes her, harry dislikes her aunt cause she's mean to him
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:


dislike for petunia? it never says in the books that lily dislikes her, harry dislikes her aunt cause she's mean to him


Yeah, I think he longed for her love but he couldn't be more disappointed. Poor Harry.
But he still had himself some fun by tricking Dudley, magic word meant "please", toilet's never had anything as horrible as his head down it - it might be sick, set the snake on him...

Indeed, Harry and Ginny should move to their neighbourhood. I couldn't wait to see how Harry making fun of him when he tried to bully the children.
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PostPosted: March 30, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
CrAzYhArRyPoTtErNeRd62442 wrote:
i think the whole loyalty to his friends bit came from his father.


that is true, one of james best things was his loyalty to his friends, its mentioned many times in the books


I think that his loyalty for his friends thing came from the insecurity of losing his not having friends through out his childhood. He had a much greater appreciation of comraderie than you're avege Joe (haha, I almost said Tom, Dick or Harry.)

CrAzYhArRyPoTtErNeRd62442 wrote:
i think harry got his fathers:
disregard for rules
loyalty to friends
hot good looks
bravery
quidditch skills
temper?
girl knowldge (lol)

i think harry got his mothers:
eyes (duh)
dislike for bullying
bravery
stuborness (ect. lily refused to go out w/ james, harry refused to abandon his thoery that amlfoy was a deatheater)
dislike for petunia (obviously)


I disagree. For one thing, Harry did not have a disregard for the rules. Actually, he really wanted to follow the rules. He just had a higher regard for humanity, and so many time he had to disregard the rules in order to do the humane thing.

He was loyal to his friends for the reason that I mentioned above.

Harry was not hot. I was tall, gangly, and had messy hair. His dad exuded a confidence that attracted females. Harry didn't have that -- at leat not at the beginning. We started to see a more confident Harry in OotP, and that really did make people take notice of him. It was different in his case than it was in his father's, though.

Harry was brave, but I don't see how that is hereditary. Most of his bravery actually came from the fact that he had no parents to disappoint. Breaking the rules wouldn't lead to dire punishment at home from him, and the Dursleys treated him poorly no matter what he did. The fear of getting chucked out of Hogwarts almost kept him from breaking the rules many times, but ultimately he usually acted upon his emotional side.

The quidditch skills I will credit to genetics.

Harry really didn't have a bad temper. He did get very angry, but even Jo had said that anyone would be angry in his situation. He was actually generally relaxed, though.

Harry knew nothing about girls. His dad did, though. He knew how to drive them crazy with lust at the very least. Harry was clueless when it came to these things.

As far as hi mother goes, naturally he got her eyes, but honestly he got all of his physical traits from his parentage. We all get our physical traits genetically, so it's pointless to mention the eyes.

Harry had an immense dislike for bullying because he was bullied himself as a child. Lily had little to do with his experience with the effects of bullying.

Harry was stubborn, but I doubt that he got that from his mother. It is just a personality trait. We all have personality traits that coincide with others. Snape was stubborn, too. Do you think that Harry got that from him? I just seems ridiculous to think that he got that trait from his mother when it is more of an action that is learned through