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phiuef
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 Posted: February 9, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: being close enough to Apparate |
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At the end of "Malfoy Manor" there is this line:
"Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out."
So do you have to be in a special range of your target destination? I haven't found anything about being close enough to Apparate in the previous books. So I'm just curious if it's part of the Apparition law or something. |
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GinnyX
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I think it is a clue for us as to the laws of apparition. I think it was JKR's way of telling us that there is some sort of distance range of some sorts.
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zengrenouille
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oo . . . there was a question about this on the W.O.M.B.A.T.S. . . .something about needing a special license to apparate between countries. I'll see if I can find it. Maybe he was in another country, because wizards have obviously apparated from rather long distances.
Edit: I found it. It is a true or false question. It doesn't give you much information, and neither does the commentary. It does, however, lead one to believe that long-distance apparition is difficult as a given in the wizarding world.
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/wombat/wombat3comments.html#76
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Hmm...what are W.O.M.B.A.T.S?
I know there Australian mammals.
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Hmm...what are W.O.M.B.A.T.S?
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Fake tests that you could take on JKR's official site. I never took them myself, but they were offered a few times in the past.
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Cool, how well you do?
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Oh, I never took them... I wish I had. I think Zen did, though...
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| The way that I understood that quote was that he was within the barriers of that prison still so he couldn't apparate. He needed to get outside the barrier so that he could apparate. I think that the prison had the same kind of protection that Hogwarts has. |
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phiuef
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| Interesting idea, but it says "close enough to Apparate" and not something like "beyond Nurmengard's borders" or "outside Nurmengard's protection". So I still think there is something about a range-limit when Apparating. So that you can't travel from one continent to the next or that your magic powers are setting some kind of limitation concerning the distance. |
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| Oh, I never took them... I wish I had. I think Zen did, though... |
nope I didn't take them. I went through a phase during which I didn't visit HP sites after they took down the Knight2King forum. I felt kind of bored with it all.
You can read the tests in their entirety and answer to the best of you knowledge at the lexicon. I don't think that Jo ever gave the answers, though.
I also read that it was pretty much impossible to fail. As long as you got one answer right, you got an O, I believe. If I had taken the tests, then I would rather have gotten an honest grade.
Here is the Lexicon W.O.M.B.A.T. page. It has links to all three tests and examples of all of the grades.
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/wombat/wombat-results.html
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| Posted: February 20, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Re: being close enough to Apparate |
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| phiuef wrote: |
At the end of "Malfoy Manor" there is this line:
"Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out."
So do you have to be in a special range of your target destination? I haven't found anything about being close enough to Apparate in the previous books. So I'm just curious if it's part of the Apparition law or something. |
I seem to recall in one of the early books that Snape lectured Harry that time and distance mattered in magic. Range is not unlimted. However, why one couldn't make a series of "jumps" I couldn't say - Rowling often glosses over the logical ramifications of her magic system. |
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| Posted: February 21, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: being close enough to Apparate |
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| phiuef wrote: |
At the end of "Malfoy Manor" there is this line:
"Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out."
So do you have to be in a special range of your target destination? I haven't found anything about being close enough to Apparate in the previous books. So I'm just curious if it's part of the Apparition law or something. |
I seem to recall in one of the early books that Snape lectured Harry that time and distance mattered in magic. Range is not unlimted. However, why one couldn't make a series of "jumps" I couldn't say - Rowling often glosses over the logical ramifications of her magic system. |
You have to be able to clearly imagine the place that you are going to. If the person has never been to the places that he "jumps" to, then the consequences may be dire.
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