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Posts: 305 · Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Location: wales, uk Posts: 305

Ive been thinking about Snape and Narcissa.

Maybe they have had some kind of relationship.

My reasons for this are Narcissa knew where Snape lived, whilst Bella didnt seem too. Snape was sympathetic towards Narcissa when she was upset over Draco and he even made an unbreakable vow for her.
Another far fetched thought is maybe Draco is Snapes son?
Ok so he has Lucius' features but JK refers him to having his mothers looks, same hair, nose and pale skin.
Why would Snape go out of his way to make the vow, help Draco and in the end kill DD and help Draco escape in the process blowing his whole cover? It seems we have never seen Snape being as nice with anyone but Narcissa and he is always on Dracos side at hogwarts. Oh well just a thought Embarassed

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It's interesting, but I don't know if I can agree. Hmm, I mean, someone with Snape's BLACK hair and Narcissa's BLONDE hair would most likely be red or a darker color if Draco was Snape's son? I don't know =\ I wouldn't be surprised if Snape did like Narcissa in some sort of way and thought of Draco as his son.
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Posts: 17 · Posted: October 3, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:

I also have a hard time buying into this, but I was going back through some old stuff on Rowling's site, because I thought there was a question like this. It turned out, someone asked if Luna was Snape's daughter (she's not), but I found Rowling's response interesting:

"This is a most tantalising idea, but no, Mr. Lovegood, the editor of 'the Quibbler', really is Luna's father and Snape does not have a daughter."
Now, I'm still not saying I buy into Draco as his son, but Rowling did leave it open to the possibility that Snape does have a son.

Posts: 305 · Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Location: wales, uk Posts: 305

I think its highly unlikely that Draco is Snapes son too. Rolling Eyes

I just think there is some past to to Nacissa and Snape although I definatley think he adored Lily in school, maybe this happened when they left school.
At first I thought Snape had maybe made the vow to prove Bella wrong but when I re-read the book, it seems there is more to it the meets the eye. We have never seen Snape be so nice to anyone (ok nice is maybe an exaggeration) but he sacrificed alot for her and I just wonder why.

Posts: 581 · Posted: October 3, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject:

Maybe Snape was acting in order to gain Narcissa's and Bella's trust?
I think Narcissa was desperate and that is why she went to Snape.
I mean who else could she go to? Her husband is in jail? Voldermort?

I really think they are/were friends because of their past but the whole "Spinner's End" chapter (Im not quite sure if thats the name) is a charade.

Snape has always been warm to Draco because he is harry's enemy and as we all know Snape dislikes Harry a lot. I think Snape also sees himself in Draco ( Slytherin, trying to prove something, Snape/James: Draco/Harry)

I doubt that Draco is Snape's son. I mean how many more secrets can the reader take? If we follow the Lily/Snape secret then the Snape/Narcissa is highly unlikely. But hey, you never really know:)

Snape's sacrifice for Narcissa ( if we are to believe that Snape is not evil, and is indeed working for DD and all that he said was a lie) then he didnt sacrife anything for her at all...he actually betrayed her. Shocked

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Your probably right but it gives us something to talk about doesnt it lol Smile

Im still not decided on the whole Snape is evil/good business, I lean to the Snape is good theory but you never know what Jk will do next Rolling Eyes

I agree on your reasons for Snape being fond of Draco, I really hadnt thought of it that way.

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I don't beleive the Snape/ Narcissa thing. I do beleive Snape was on a fishing expedition. He was fishing for info when he made the unbreakable vow.
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maybe the relationship wasn't happening at the time of dracos birth?
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I don't think that Snape was fishing for info when he made the unbreakable vow because that would be a big sacrifice - if you do not fulfill the vow you will die - and considering what the vow involved....

There is a possibility it could have been an undercover job but from what i gather Snape would need to have known about Draco's mission - and i get the feeling that he didn't - and he would have had to discuss killing DD with DD himself and i don't think this happened because from my point of view DD was quite taken aback with the attack on Hogwarts and was not aware of his own downfall until he saw Snape with his wand pointing at DD's chest.

My point is that he could have made the unbreakable so that he could gain favour with the Dark Lord you know get back into the inner circle. It stands to my resoning that he had more to gain by making the vow if he was on the other side than if he was on our side. Afterall in GoF when LV came back he did say that one of the gap belonged to a deatheater who was going to come back - considering what happened to Karkaroff i would have to say this refers to Snape.

In conclusion i think it's not because Snape fanceis or fancied Narcissa that he made the vow but he viewed the vow as an oppotunity to to return to his former Master and friends.
After all if you were being bullied by some people and the teacher set a homework assignment and you ha a choice either to work with bullie or t work with people you believe have the power to give you power you would most definetly chose the power people. Granted this situation is different butit's got similarieties. Mypoint being there is a fat chance that Snape is on Voldie's side.
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i think he likes the snape vs. james relates to draco vs. harry thing, except its reversed from his stituation. he probably likes the revenge.

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I don't think they had a past relationship. I think Snape and Narcissa love each other now, that's why snape was so willing to give the unbreakable bond. The bond is kinda like marriage. It can be speculated that Snape and Narcissa will get together in the 7th book. Of course they both wouldve turned good by then Very Happy

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I dont think so.
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Posts: 68 · Joined: Aug 30, 2006 Location: UK Posts: 68

They certainly have some kind of past ties, but not nesscessarily romantic ones. It's a plausible pairing, and I can certainly see there is some support in canon for it, but I believe Draco is Lucius' son, and not Snape's. I think that IS a little far-fetched.

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I think it would be cool if Snape would be with Harry.

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For me, I have always pictured Snape a monk like man, not that that is what he wanted, but no woman would go that low.

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i think that snape was just doing it because he resented DD for putting him in VD hands again and he did say in HBP that he knew about dracos mission and i fully believe that snape is evil and sneaky
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^^^ I only agree with the part about continueing to be in Voldy inner circle. Snape might have had resentment for both Harry and DD, but I am one of those people, whom believe Snape is actually a good guy. Snape did not kill DD for the sake of the kill or that he liked killing or that he wanted Hogwarts ruined, he did it because he had to.

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How is that being a good guy? It wasn't like it was on Dumbledore's orders.
It was on Voldemort's. Voldemort = Most Evil Person Ever. He wins the MEPE award.
I know you have reason to believe he is slightly good, seeing as he offered to help Narcissa, and Draco, but those people are just as low as Snape himself.

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Snape helping Draco and Mommy Malfoy, are not the reasons that I believe Snape will turn out to be good. DD trusted Snape for some reason, yet unknown and Snape has had multiple chances in hurting/killing/or bring Harry to Voldy and he has not.

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And yeah, that's an okay theory. I don't believe he is all bad, but like, somewhere in a borderline.
He betrays Dumbledore, which is betraying the Good Side. He hasn't killed Harry; even after Voldemort regains power, which is kind of betrayal for the Dark Side, seeing as Voldemort might need Harry to regain his form (like in GoF), and the Prophecy says that, well, one of them has to kill the other.
I'm assuming that means only Voldemort can kill Harry, and only Harry can kill Voldemort.
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Posts: 657 · Posted: January 24, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject:

I'll bet Snape kissed Narcissa when she told him that she killed Serius. Honestly, I think Narcissa has the hots for Voldy. As Ron Stoppable would say, "Sick...and WRONG."
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Posts: 326 · Posted: February 1, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject:

Forlong you have it wrong. Bellatrix killed Sirius and I think she is in love with voldy. She might go mad or turn against him because the books made it clear that Voldy is incapable of love.

As for Snape and Narcissa, I think I like this idea. It will be nice for Snape to get a woman. ( poor man never got any in his life: as far as we know anyway).

I don't think that Snape and Cissy theory throws the whole Snape and Lily thing out of the water. It could be that he was in love with Lily but she went with James and Cissy loved him but he was hung up on Lily but by the time Lily had died and he needed a shoulder to cry own ( it being his fault and all) Cissy was already in a relationship with Malfoy. So he probably still has some feeling for her and she for him.

Anyone like my idea.

Draco Snape's Son: It's only so much I can take. Is it okay for JK to write about children out of wedlock. There isn't a character in the book th

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