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| I don't think Voldemort will ever become good, and while I don't think that love will be the only thing that makes Harry able to kill of Voldemort in the end, I don't think we can completely forget about it either. Certainly we will need some things more complex to add to it, but at the same time, Dumbledore has made clear that this is a power given to Harry which Voldemort does not have that it is, in fact, very powerful! |
a hug?? 
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I really have not a clue. I am sure it is quite possible and whatnot but I guess it all depends on how book 7 unfolds and what happens that really determines if he will die or not. I hope he does not but maybe he will. There's the prophecy to think about but then again destiny or fate can be changed and stuff. It all depends but, I sure hope he doesn't...what's Harry Potter without Harry.
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After Harry destroys all the horcruxes, Voldemort will be in an highly weakened state right.
Then when Harry and Voldemort duel, the Priori Incantatem effect takes place right, maybe Harry can use that and his "ability to love" to somehow destroy Voldemort.
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| Posted: August 5, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sonita888 wrote: |
| littlehangleton wrote: |
| I don't think Voldemort will ever become good, and while I don't think that love will be the only thing that makes Harry able to kill of Voldemort in the end, I don't think we can completely forget about it either. Certainly we will need some things more complex to add to it, but at the same time, Dumbledore has made clear that this is a power given to Harry which Voldemort does not have that it is, in fact, very powerful! |
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LOL It would be so funny if that were it...Harry goes up to Voldemort and just hugs him and that's it...Voldy gives in and becomes a good guy! LOL |
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Sonita888
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| Posted: August 5, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I am tired of speculating, I WANT BOOK, I WANT BOOK, I WANY BOOK!
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| Posted: August 6, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| littlehangleton wrote: |
| I don't think Voldemort will ever become good, and while I don't think that love will be the only thing that makes Harry able to kill of Voldemort in the end, I don't think we can completely forget about it either. Certainly we will need some things more complex to add to it, but at the same time, Dumbledore has made clear that this is a power given to Harry which Voldemort does not have that it is, in fact, very powerful! |
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LOL It would be so funny if that were it...Harry goes up to Voldemort and just hugs him and that's it...Voldy gives in and becomes a good guy! LOL |
It would be funny but that would also be a lame ending after all these years of waiting for that book.
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| Posted: August 6, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: |
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it was just a joke...
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Sonita888
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| Posted: August 7, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I meant it as a joke as well.
But sorry if u had got offended.
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i dont mean good, like nice and stuff. but maybe he will get a concience and when it came to killing harry, he hesitates and makes time for whatever your theory of harry winning is
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m hm....
well, just for you guys to know, I read a newspaper a few days ago saying that the U.S. is begging for Harry not to die(persay...) but, J.K. Rowling is determind to be "Kind" to Harry but ultimately, he's gonna die....
or something like that...
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i wouldnt believe annything jk says until i read the book
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You guys are cracking me up! Ha!
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in ss/ps, at the end of chapter 7, harry has a dream where he talks to quirrell's turban (which ends up hiding V), which turns to malfoy, which turns to snape, which ends with a high pitched laugh and a flash of green. I think this dream foreshadows snape killing harry with V by his side laughing. Everything else in the dream happened, exept for the very last part, unless you think that it is snape killing dd not harry
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That is a really interesting theory because this dream occurs before Harry's first class with Snape (after the Sorting, Harry's first night at Hogwarts). So this was before Harry started hating Snape. So it couldnt have been Harry's hate for Snape that triggered that dream.
But it could have been Voldie (in Quirrel's turban) who is a master of Legilimency, who could have triggered that dream to make Harry suspicious of Snape so that Quirrel could steal the Stone without being hindered.
And also Harry's only memory of the night his parents died was the green flash (the Avada Kedavra curse). And when ever he was affected by the Dementors, he did not recall any memories of Snape, only Voldemort.
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It would definitely be devastating but maybe Harry will have to sacrifice himself in order to kill or destroy Voldemort completely. Of course that doesn't mean that all evil in the world is vanquished but it would definitely mean that the wizarding community can breathe freely again and won't have to fear Voldemort anymore.
I think I would be so depressed I couldn't pick up another HP book ...
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Yeah maybe Harry can use his power to "love" to remove the horcrux from within himself. Then he can destroy the horcrux without having to die.
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same here.
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That's an interesting theory. I hadn't though of that before. 
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| Yeah maybe Harry can use his power to "love" to remove the horcrux from within himself. Then he can destroy the horcrux without having to die. |
Vut does love hav 2 do with removing a horcrux?
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| Posted: August 12, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: |
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al we know is that the power haarry has the dark lord has not is love so love has to come into play somehow
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| Yeah maybe Harry can use his power to "love" to remove the horcrux from within himself. Then he can destroy the horcrux without having to die. |
Vut does love hav 2 do with removing a horcrux? |
Voldemort doesnt stand love, and neither does his horcruxes. So maybe Harry can repel the horcrux using love. After all as P4dfoot said the power the dark lord knows not, is love.
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Okay, I think we're underestimating the power of love(in magical terms atleast). Some people are wondering how love can defeat Voldemort. This is something I've posted about many times. Here's a copy of my post from another thread.
The power of love.
Does it sound stupid? We've seen what it can do. Lily's love for her son, created a magical barrier so strong, that the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time could not touch a teenage boy when he resides in a Muggle residence, until the age of seventeen.
This is Harry's ability. The ability to feel love, which Voldemort has never felt or experienced. Harry cares about the people he knows, Ron, Hermione, the Weasleys, Hagrid. He draws strength from that.
Picture this - Harry lies hurt from a fatal wound. Voldemort stands over him, to finish him off. Harry thinks of everyone he cares about. He feels love for them and then in a last burst of strength kills Voldemort.
If Harry's love for his friends and people he cares about can be used an attacking spell think of the power it could have. It would obliterate Voldemort.
What Rage is trying to say is that maybe Harry could use that power to remove the Horcrux, an evil object from within his body.
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Thanx Siddu
I think Harry can use a attacking spell powered by "love", coz to conjure up a Patronus u have to use happiness (think of a happy feeling) and the Avada Kedavra curse needs hate and also the user should enjoy the pain he is causing. So emotions can be used to create spells.
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