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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing Reply with quote

Fiendfyre, you want a criminal, how bout Palin.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain's Republican ticket.
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Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report by a bipartisan panel that investigated the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.

The inquiry looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.

The report found that Palin let the family grudge influence her decision-making even if it was not the sole reason Monegan was dismissed. "I feel vindicated," Monegan said. "It sounds like they've validated my belief and opinions. And that tells me I'm not totally out in left field."

Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.

"I disagree," said Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein. "In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain, usually financial. Mr. Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain."

The statute says "any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that (public) trust."

Palin and McCain's supporters had hoped the inquiry's finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain's running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama.

But the panel of lawmakers voted to release the report, although not without dissension. There was no immediate vote on whether to endorse its findings.

"I think there are some problems in this report," said Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. "I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye."

The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation.

The investigation revealed that Palin's husband, Todd, has extraordinary access to the governor's office and her closest advisers. He used that access to try to get trooper Mike Wooten fired, the report found.

Branchflower faulted Sarah Palin for taking no action to stop that. He also noted there is evidence the governor herself participated in the effort.

Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over allegations that he illegally shot a moose, drank beer in a patrol car and used a Taser on his stepson.

In proceedings revealed by the report, former Alaska State Trooper Col. Julia Grimes told investigators that Sarah Palin called her in late 2005 to discuss why Wooten hadn't been fired, and Grimes told her the inquiry was confidential by law.

"Her questions were how can a trooper who behaves this way still be working," Grimes said. "I asked her to please trust me, that because I can't tell her details I would ask her to please trust me that I would take the appropriate action if and when I knew what the findings were. ... I couldn't have another conversation with her about it because, again, it's protected by law."

Grimes said Todd Palin also contacted her by telephone in late 2005 to discuss the confidential investigation of Wooten.

Wooten's disciplinary case was settled in September 2006 — months before Palin was elected governor — and he was allowed to continue working as a trooper.

After Palin's election, her new public safety commissioner, Monegan, said he was summoned to the governor's office to meet Todd Palin, who said Wooten's punishment had been merely a "slap on the wrist." Monegan said he understood the Palins wanted Wooten fired. "I had this kind of ominous feeling that I may not be long for this job if I didn't somehow respond accordingly," Monegan told the investigator.

For months afterward, Todd Palin filed complaints about Wooten, saying he was seen riding a snowmobile after he had filed a worker's compensation claim and was seen dropping off his children at school in his patrol car. Monegan said Wooten's doctor had authorized the snowmobile trip and his supervisor had approved his use of the patrol car. Monegan said Alaska's attorney general later called him to inquire about Wooten, and Monegan told him they shouldn't be discussing the subject.

"This was an issue that apparently wasn't going to go away, that there were certainly frustrations," Monegan said. "To say that (Sarah Palin) was focused on this I think would be accurate."
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Please cite your source or I will have to lock this thread. Thank you.

Ironically, they are saying what she did was not technically illegal. I saw Larry King ask how is it that it's legal... Basically all they are saying is that she is guilty of abusing her power, which isn't necassarily illegal, just unethical. Am I explaining that right? I suck at explaining things sometimes...
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^Please cite your source or I will have to lock this thread. Thank you.

Ironically, they are saying what she did was not technically illegal. I saw Larry King ask how is it that it's legal... Basically all they are saying is that she is guilty of abusing her power, which isn't necassarily illegal, just unethical. Am I explaining that right? I suck at explaining things sometimes...


Srry Ginny , I'lle dit mines now.
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Alaska panel finds Palin abused power in firing Reply with quote

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Fiendfyre, you want a criminal, how bout Palin.


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ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Sarah Palin unlawfully abused her power as governor by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded Friday. The politically charged inquiry imperiled her reputation as a reformer on John McCain's Republican ticket.
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Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report by a bipartisan panel that investigated the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.

The inquiry looked into her dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce with the governor's sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.

The report found that Palin let the family grudge influence her decision-making even if it was not the sole reason Monegan was dismissed. "I feel vindicated," Monegan said. "It sounds like they've validated my belief and opinions. And that tells me I'm not totally out in left field."

Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act.

"I disagree," said Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein. "In order to violate the ethics law, there has to be some personal gain, usually financial. Mr. Branchflower has failed to identify any financial gain."

The statute says "any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that (public) trust."

Palin and McCain's supporters had hoped the inquiry's finding would be delayed until after the presidential election to spare her any embarrassment and to put aside an enduring distraction as she campaigns as McCain's running mate in an uphill contest against Democrat Barack Obama.

But the panel of lawmakers voted to release the report, although not without dissension. There was no immediate vote on whether to endorse its findings.

"I think there are some problems in this report," said Republican state Sen. Gary Stevens, a member of the panel. "I would encourage people to be very cautious, to look at this with a jaundiced eye."

The nearly 300-page report does not recommend sanctions or a criminal investigation.

The investigation revealed that Palin's husband, Todd, has extraordinary access to the governor's office and her closest advisers. He used that access to try to get trooper Mike Wooten fired, the report found.

Branchflower faulted Sarah Palin for taking no action to stop that. He also noted there is evidence the governor herself participated in the effort.

Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over allegations that he illegally shot a moose, drank beer in a patrol car and used a Taser on his stepson.

In proceedings revealed by the report, former Alaska State Trooper Col. Julia Grimes told investigators that Sarah Palin called her in late 2005 to discuss why Wooten hadn't been fired, and Grimes told her the inquiry was confidential by law.

"Her questions were how can a trooper who behaves this way still be working," Grimes said. "I asked her to please trust me, that because I can't tell her details I would ask her to please trust me that I would take the appropriate action if and when I knew what the findings were. ... I couldn't have another conversation with her about it because, again, it's protected by law."

Grimes said Todd Palin also contacted her by telephone in late 2005 to discuss the confidential investigation of Wooten.

Wooten's disciplinary case was settled in September 2006 — months before Palin was elected governor — and he was allowed to continue working as a trooper.

After Palin's election, her new public safety commissioner, Monegan, said he was summoned to the governor's office to meet Todd Palin, who said Wooten's punishment had been merely a "slap on the wrist." Monegan said he understood the Palins wanted Wooten fired. "I had this kind of ominous feeling that I may not be long for this job if I didn't somehow respond accordingly," Monegan told the investigator.

For months afterward, Todd Palin filed complaints about Wooten, saying he was seen riding a snowmobile after he had filed a worker's compensation claim and was seen dropping off his children at school in his patrol car. Monegan said Wooten's doctor had authorized the snowmobile trip and his supervisor had approved his use of the patrol car. Monegan said Alaska's attorney general later called him to inquire about Wooten, and Monegan told him they shouldn't be discussing the subject.

"This was an issue that apparently wasn't going to go away, that there were certainly frustrations," Monegan said. "To say that (Sarah Palin) was focused on this I think would be accurate."

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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already posted this in one of the other half a dozen McCain Palin threads. Do we need another one?
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marxx wrote:
I already posted this in one of the other half a dozen McCain Palin threads. Do we need another one?


srry, i didn't see, i'll get a mod to lock this
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marxx wrote:
I already posted this in one of the other half a dozen McCain Palin threads. Do we need another one?


I thought it would be fine if we had a new thread to discuss this news story in.
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we should lock this thread, this thread should only discuss Troopergate
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get back on topic before I lock it.
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said before, cue all the Palin apologists who are going to blame it all on some kind of communist conspiracy.
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PostPosted: October 10, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like I said before, cue all the Palin apologists who are going to blame it all on some kind of communist conspiracy.


Damn those Commies!
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Well first of all she's not a criminal. All this report really says is that she let her husband get too close to official matters. It's unclear if she had any knowledge of what 'pressure' was being applied because she denies that but I don't really see anything wrong done here. Todd is a husband, probably a protective one, and this trooper is not a good dude and in my opinion shouldn't be a trooper. After making what I'm sure was drunken threats against the family, Todd Palin wanted something done about it. What kind of husband wouldn't?

I keep reading conflicting things on whether anything illegal was done or not. The panel isn't recommending any further action, some reports say she violated ethics law, but if she did, how come further action won't be taken? Furthermore, the report said that the pressure was a contributing factor to the Police Chief's reassignment, not the sole factor.

Either way, it's weird how close her husband is on state matters, but you can't say Bill wouldn't do the same if Hilary were prez, governor, or other Executive position in some place.
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PostPosted: October 11, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiendfyre wrote:
Well first of all she's not a criminal. All this report really says is that she let her husband get too close to official matters. It's unclear if she had any knowledge of what 'pressure' was being applied because she denies that but I don't really see anything wrong done here. Todd is a husband, probably a protective one, and this trooper is not a good dude and in my opinion shouldn't be a trooper. After making what I'm sure was drunken threats against the family, Todd Palin wanted something done about it. What kind of husband wouldn't?

I keep reading conflicting things on whether anything illegal was done or not. The panel isn't recommending any further action, some reports say she violated ethics law, but if she did, how come further action won't be taken? Furthermore, the report said that the pressure was a contributing factor to the Police Chief's reassignment, not the sole factor.

Either way, it's weird how close her husband is on state matters, but you can't say Bill wouldn't do the same if Hilary were prez, governor, or other Executive position in some place.


Wow, you don't see anything wrong with this, but you see Obama buying land from whats his name criminal? i really dont get you at all.
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PostPosted: October 11, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are already two topics concerning Gov. Palin. This issue has already been brought up in one of them many times. Feel free to discuss it
http://potterforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=19942 <- over there somewhere.

There are enough of these threads for you all to insult each other and the candidates in. Take your pick, and stop making new ones when they don't need to be made.


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