So I'm curious what my liberal friends here think about Obama's associations with radicals such as Jeremiah Wright (his pastor of 20 years), William Ayers (part of a group that bombed the pentagon and the capitol in the 70s), and Tony Rezco (the convicted slum lord who helped Obama buy his current house in Chicago).
I mean, these are all radical individuals and Obama has ties with supporting and giving money to all of them. And these guys are beyond the idiots that most politicians seem to get in league with at some point. Obama sits there and downplays Jeremiah Wright and said that Ayers was basically an acquaintance when there's even reports out there suggesting he's a family friend and even babysat Obama's kids a couple times.
This is the stuff that the media doesn't report on and that people I generally talk to don't know about. They just think Obama is a new kind of politician that's gonna save all of us - when in my mind, he is a wreckless radical who is going to raise taxes on the wealthy and businesses, which will hurt our economy even more. So it seems like he's either going to not raise taxes and save the economy and lie about what he says he's going to do, or he's going to keep his promises for the sake of his political career. On top of that, he's got plenty of associations with these radicals and if the Democrats get unchecked power in the Legislature, he can do a lot of damage by growing government. _________________
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Guess what all of the people have in common that you named up there. THEY'RE ALL BLACK! Coincidence? I think not. Have you ever heard of the Keating five? McCain has been involved with some very serious things himself. _________________
And I pretty much said above that any politician is gonna have questionable "friends" at some point. All the questionable people are the ones who donate to campaigns in the first place.
And yes I have heard of the Keating Five, of which McCain was complete exonerated, even by Democrats. But he was told that he used poor judgment in associating with that business guy, and he paid back all the contributions he got from him. I don't see how that compares to unrepentant terrorists, convicted felons, and a black panther preacher. _________________
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And I pretty much said above that any politician is gonna have questionable "friends" at some point. All the questionable people are the ones who donate to campaigns in the first place.
And yes I have heard of the Keating Five, of which McCain was complete exonerated, even by Democrats. But he was told that he used poor judgment in associating with that business guy, and he paid back all the contributions he got from him. I don't see how that compares to unrepentant terrorists, convicted felons, and a black panther preacher.
Lol, i watched this thing on MSNBC, wrong people srry. My bad.
Truth is every single candidate at one time of his life has done something wrong, or has been associated with bad people. _________________
And I pretty much said above that any politician is gonna have questionable "friends" at some point. All the questionable people are the ones who donate to campaigns in the first place.
Like Pat Robertson. When I pointed out that he gave money to Guiliani's campaign, I got a lot of *shrugs* and "who cares." Pat Robertson to me is a terrible, cruel person, not respectable enough to be considered a human being, since he displays no human emotions, values, or morals. But hey, that's just me and crazy radical thinking.
Can McCain look up with a clear conscience knowing he accepted money from only respectable people who everyone adores?
Of course I don't think money should be accepted from extreme terrorist groups.
On a sidenote, I think your use of the word "radical" is tasteless and misleading. I know that radical could mean extreme, but in this context, the two words are not interchangable. Not all radicals are extremists... and to play it off as they are is just plain wrong and condescending. For those who are radicals, but would never resort to extreme terrorist actions, to be lumped together in one general stereotype is pretty demeaning.
Speaking of extreme, have you seen the video of Palin be excorcised, yet? _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
Maybe they really were? That stuff does go on there you know. Voodoo and what not. Without any details, I wouldn't make a judgment on what he was trying to do. Also, she doesn't have any one preacher as she's not a full fledged member of any church at the moment. She has gone to a bunch of different ones.
On top of that, I still don't see how any of these people compare with convicted felons, unrepentant terrorists, and Anti-American preachers.
And I'm sorry, but you simply cannot tell me that you sat in a church with the same pastor for 20 years and don't share some of his convictions. That makes no sense what so ever. _________________
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Maybe they really were? That stuff does go on there you know. Voodoo and what not. Without any details, I wouldn't make a judgment on what he was trying to do. Also, she doesn't have any one preacher as she's not a full fledged member of any church at the moment. She has gone to a bunch of different ones.
On top of that, I still don't see how any of these people compare with convicted felons, unrepentant terrorists, and Anti-American preachers.
And I'm sorry, but you simply cannot tell me that you sat in a church with the same pastor for 20 years and don't share some of his convictions. That makes no sense what so ever.
I've lived in this country for 10 years, listening to Republican BS, and i'm not in anyway liking McCain or Palin. _________________
"Convicted felons, unrepentant terrorists and 'anti-American' pastors (Because being proud of being black is 'anti-American'?)".
1. Convicted felon - Obama's only actual dealing with Rezko himself was buying a parcel of land. Unfortunately for conservatives, that's not illegal. But they made a huge deal of it anyway. So Obama, as I showed in the other thread, said it was a mistake and he regrets it. As I also said, if McCain is allowed to be friends and political allies with corrupt politicians and then regret it and walk away unscathed in your view, it's a pathetic double standard.
I'll also add that this particular "unrepentant terrorist" has the backing of various academic institutions and of the Governor of South Carolina (Republican).
3. Rofl this one is the best. What is shows is that white people in the US get so shit scared when they see black people talking about black power etc. that they assume that whenever a group of them get to together that's ALL they talk about. Obama's a Christian and he went a particular church like thousands of other people. However when the pastor of church made comments Obama didn't agree with he said so very clearly. That's all there is to that. Even Fox News has dropped it.
On the other hand, Palin goes to a priest who drives poor women out of African towns for being "witches" which is a far more heinous and disgusting act than expressing free speech, doesn't even attempt to dissociate herself from him but you''ll ignore that because you don't perceive it to be "anti-American". I would have thought tolerance and gender-equality were hallmarks of American values. Again, pathetic double standards. _________________
You have to wonder why she doesn't spend time at one church. Don't people usually find a place of worship and stick with it for awhile? Why does she keep bouncing around?
And seriously, she had one of the priests from Kenya ask Jesus to protect her from witchcraft. That didn't take place in Kenya, it happened in Alaska, in this country. I'm sorry, but voo-doo? Real witches that she needed protection from? The only witch I know of that anyone needs protecting from is ravvy.
Obama could have shared some of the convictions... and he could have disagreed on some convictions. Should he have upped and left because he didn't believe in some convictions? And didn't Obama himself say that the church he belonged to had changed, that it wasn't the same as it had been and that's why he left. I liked that he left when he felt he wanted to. If he had stayed I'd have had a problem.
However, our country does have a freedom of religion, so Obama should be free to pray where he chooses and it is not for me to judge him. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
You have to wonder why she doesn't spend time at one church. Don't people usually find a place of worship and stick with it for awhile? Why does she keep bouncing around?
And seriously, she had one of the priests from Kenya ask Jesus to protect her from witchcraft. That didn't take place in Kenya, it happened in Alaska, in this country. I'm sorry, but voo-doo? Real witches that she needed protection from? The only witch I know of that anyone needs protecting from is ravvy.
Obama could have shared some of the convictions... and he could have disagreed on some convictions. Should he have upped and left because he didn't believe in some convictions? And didn't Obama himself say that the church he belonged to had changed, that it wasn't the same as it had been and that's why he left. I liked that he left when he felt he wanted to. If he had stayed I'd have had a problem.
However, our country does have a freedom of religion, so Obama should be free to pray where he chooses and it is not for me to judge him.
You have to wonder why she doesn't spend time at one church. Don't people usually find a place of worship and stick with it for awhile? Why does she keep bouncing around?
And seriously, she had one of the priests from Kenya ask Jesus to protect her from witchcraft. That didn't take place in Kenya, it happened in Alaska, in this country. I'm sorry, but voo-doo? Real witches that she needed protection from? The only witch I know of that anyone needs protecting from is ravvy.
Obama could have shared some of the convictions... and he could have disagreed on some convictions. Should he have upped and left because he didn't believe in some convictions? And didn't Obama himself say that the church he belonged to had changed, that it wasn't the same as it had been and that's why he left. I liked that he left when he felt he wanted to. If he had stayed I'd have had a problem.
However, our country does have a freedom of religion, so Obama should be free to pray where he chooses and it is not for me to judge him.
I'm just voting for whoever is running against Palin. I dislike her THAT much.
Idc what Mccain or Obama does. The race isn't about them anymore anyway.
wow, so you dont care who is first on the ticket, you know the one that actually matters and is going to have a huge hand in how our country is going to be ran for the next four years?
last time i checked the presidential race is all about whoever is on the first on the ticket, the one who will be calling the shots if elected. _________________
I'm just voting for whoever is running against Palin. I dislike her THAT much.
Idc what Mccain or Obama does. The race isn't about them anymore anyway.
wow, so you dont care who is first on the ticket, you know the one that actually matters and is going to have a huge hand in how our country is going to be ran for the next four years?
last time i checked the presidential race is all about whoever is on the first on the ticket, the one who will be calling the shots if elected.
Well, if for some sick, twisted fate of reality or whatever and the Republicans have their way (again), Obama will be impeached for something as ludicrous as getting a "special-job" while on the job.
If McCain wins, I'm HIGHLY considering getting the hell out of dodge before he blows up America. _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
I'm just voting for whoever is running against Palin. I dislike her THAT much.
Idc what Mccain or Obama does. The race isn't about them anymore anyway.
wow, so you dont care who is first on the ticket, you know the one that actually matters and is going to have a huge hand in how our country is going to be ran for the next four years?
last time i checked the presidential race is all about whoever is on the first on the ticket, the one who will be calling the shots if elected.
There was some sarcasm in my post.
At any rate, I think I have a right to chose whatever party for whatever reason I like. Say whatever the hell you want, but HEY I'm not voting for Palin.
I think it shows a lack in McCain's judgement that he chose Palin for Vice, while I think Obama chose a perfect running mate.
Again, not like its any of your business who I vote for and why... _________________ Here's How!|Graphics
Look, any candidate has his or her bad connections somewhere. The point is, I've never seen any connections like this with any candidate, and I'm kinda dumbfounded as to why Democrats don't give a crap about it.
But more so, I'm more concerned about the issues and what Obama plans to do, which is make government bigger and more bloated than it already is. And his plans aren't going to help the economy. Redistribution of wealth doesn't work, we know this from history. His policies remind me of Jimmy Carter, who was a lame duck president btw.
But then again, we don't really know what he's going to do as he hasn't accomplished didley squat anywhere and spent his whole senate career running for President. _________________
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