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Who should have done it?
Mrs.Weasley?
22%
 22%  [ 33 ]
Neville?
55%
 55%  [ 83 ]
Voldemort?
6%
 6%  [ 10 ]
Other?
9%
 9%  [ 14 ]
She Shouldn't have died?
6%
 6%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 150

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Simply Just
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PostPosted: August 23, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Neville should have killed her. The snake just wasnt enough. Evil or Very Mad


Not nearly enough!
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PostPosted: August 23, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Molly was great. Smile

I'd would also have liked to have seen Neville or prehaps Tonks killing Bella.
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PostPosted: August 28, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neville should have, but having Mrs. Weasley do it was hilarious Very Happy
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PostPosted: September 2, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would of been good if Neville killed her..it would have done alot of justice to his pride Very Happy but what happens, happens and can't change it...

Would of been sooo good if he did....
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PostPosted: September 3, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but having Mrs. Weasley do it was hilarious Very Happy

I can't wait to see that bit in the films. Very Happy
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PostPosted: September 3, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would have liked neville to kill her but then i guess its not realistic if everybody kills the person they hate most
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PostPosted: September 16, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry should've killed her juss because of sirius.
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PostPosted: September 16, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicholas Flamell wrote:
Harry should've killed her juss because of sirius.


Even though that instance was heart-breaking, Neville should've killed her.

End of story.
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PostPosted: September 16, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply Just wrote:
Nicholas Flamell wrote:
Harry should've killed her juss because of sirius.


Even though that instance was heart-breaking, Neville should've killed her.

I agree. Having Neville killing her would have been great. But Neville killed Nagini, so he's still awesome.
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PostPosted: September 22, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted that Neville should have had the honours however after reading valid points then Molly did have good reasons to be the right person for the job, sounds a bit sad but I found Bellatrix quite attractive in a scruffy kinda way lol Razz
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PostPosted: September 22, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does no one else think Tonks would have been great for killing Bella?

Bella killed her, so... Razz
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PostPosted: November 15, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should have been Neville, so he could avenge his parents. Bellatrix was like his version of Voldemort (Voldemort killed Harry's parents, Bellatrix tortured Neville's to insanity). I guess Molly Weasley killing Bellatrix showed a mother's love, a common theme throughout the books (Lily's sacrafice, Narcissa's lie, Molly killing Bellatrix)
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PostPosted: November 17, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry, for sure. To get back at her for killing Sirius.
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PostPosted: December 3, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neville, for sure.
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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neville is a poor choice. The overaching theme of the series is love, not vengeance.

More practically, Neville had no real chance against Bellatrix in a duel. He's just a 16-year-old boy with zero real experience, whereas Bellatrix is the equivalent of a multiple ace or seasoned vet. She's landed more Avadas successfully during that one battle (JKR has stated that Bellatrix killed Tonks) than he's attempted in his life. We know that Bellatrix out-dueled Tonks and Kingsley Shacklebolt back-to-back in Phoenix (book version), and still had enough left to shrug off Harry like a gnat.

Neville would have had to basically snipe her unawares from behind or similar, and that's not heroic. I'm glad he didn't sully himself just to get that kind of vengeance. Calling for Gryffindor's sword is enough of a legacy for anybody. Besides, Neville surely doesn't know the proper wrist flick for a successful Avada, so at best he'd only Stupefy or Petrificus her. Do you want him to also stab her defenseless body with the sword, or maybe hold a Tentacula while it strangles her? We might cheer him on, but after that you'd rather not meet him in a darkened hallway. It'd sure spice up his later Herbology homework assignments Shocked

I was surprised to see that Molly Weasley was a duelist on Bellatrix's level -- she never gave that impression earlier. She must have been a holy terror in the dueling club during her own Hogwarts student days. We may guess that she'd avoid active combat roles once she started bearing children (Lily Potter did, too). So she'd have been a non-combatant throughout the First Wizarding War (16-17 years ago, Harry/Ron's age). Judging from Bill and Charlie's ages, she must be 25 years out of practice -- and she's still better than Bellatrix. OTOH, she also had 25 years of bonus maternal love power adding oomph to her spells. Bellatrix's ghost might complain that she was already tired from dueling Tonks, Ginny/Hermione/Luna, and all her other skirmishs from earlier in the battle.

Mother's love expresses itself in many ways. Lily chose the sacrifical form, which is pure and elegant, but a hard act to follow. Molly preferred the Ripley Get away from her you bitch variety, after the famous chess master Dr. Savielly Tartakower: It is always better to sacrifice your opponent('s pieces). It's good for Harry to see a mother figure showing that side of the equation. Some things are worth fighting for.

What really made me blink was Molly's insistence on dueling Bellatrix alone. That's not just confidence -- it's arrogance approaching hubris. What made her so sure she'd win? Now I wonder -- are they roughly the same age? (Ron and Draco Malfoy are the same age, so Molly and Narcissa must be similar, and Bellatrix is just a bit older.) Did, perhaps, student Molly regularly mop dueling club floor with student Bellatrix's backside? Very Happy
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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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trully think that all of these peolpe had the right to kill that b***H( in the wors of mrs weasly) sorry about my laungage...lol but trully she deserved to die and at the time mrs. weasly was so ticked.



Mrs.Weasley?: good choice at themoment but when you go to think about it the only real thing is that she was mad about ginny,
Neville?

Voldemort?: i just dont think this should have worked he was to engaged in his own battle and sombody that she bothered and affected should have the rite not just coldy cuz hes angry, he already kills enough

Other?: neivlee should have been a top choice i meazn look what she did to his parents, i think that he should have shown her what it felt like that she did to his parents, then harry or some one else she affected should have finished her off. I mean she did kill harrys "father" after his true father died.

She Shouldn't have died? SHe deffinatley deserved to die, look at what she did

I still have to face the fact that she could duel very well but i am looking at this from the stand point of who Deserved to


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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilmoy literally took the words right out of my mouth.
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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilmoy wrote:
Neville is a poor choice. The overaching theme of the series is love, not vengeance.

More practically, Neville had no real chance against Bellatrix in a duel. He's just a 16-year-old boy with zero real experience, whereas Bellatrix is the equivalent of a multiple ace or seasoned vet. She's landed more Avadas successfully during that one battle (JKR has stated that Bellatrix killed Tonks) than he's attempted in his life. We know that Bellatrix out-dueled Tonks and Kingsley Shacklebolt back-to-back in Phoenix (book version), and still had enough left to shrug off Harry like a gnat.

Neville would have had to basically snipe her unawares from behind or similar, and that's not heroic. I'm glad he didn't sully himself just to get that kind of vengeance. Calling for Gryffindor's sword is enough of a legacy for anybody. Besides, Neville surely doesn't know the proper wrist flick for a successful Avada, so at best he'd only Stupefy or Petrificus her. Do you want him to also stab her defenseless body with the sword, or maybe hold a Tentacula while it strangles her? We might cheer him on, but after that you'd rather not meet him in a darkened hallway. It'd sure spice up his later Herbology homework assignments Shocked

I was surprised to see that Molly Weasley was a duelist on Bellatrix's level -- she never gave that impression earlier. She must have been a holy terror in the dueling club during her own Hogwarts student days. We may guess that she'd avoid active combat roles once she started bearing children (Lily Potter did, too). So she'd have been a non-combatant throughout the First Wizarding War (16-17 years ago, Harry/Ron's age). Judging from Bill and Charlie's ages, she must be 25 years out of practice -- and she's still better than Bellatrix. OTOH, she also had 25 years of bonus maternal love power adding oomph to her spells. Bellatrix's ghost might complain that she was already tired from dueling Tonks, Ginny/Hermione/Luna, and all her other skirmishs from earlier in the battle.

Mother's love expresses itself in many ways. Lily chose the sacrifical form, which is pure and elegant, but a hard act to follow. Molly preferred the Ripley Get away from her you bitch variety, after the famous chess master Dr. Savielly Tartakower: It is always better to sacrifice your opponent('s pieces). It's good for Harry to see a mother figure showing that side of the equation. Some things are worth fighting for.

What really made me blink was Molly's insistence on dueling Bellatrix alone. That's not just confidence -- it's arrogance approaching hubris. What made her so sure she'd win? Now I wonder -- are they roughly the same age? (Ron and Draco Malfoy are the same age, so Molly and Narcissa must be similar, and Bellatrix is just a bit older.) Did, perhaps, student Molly regularly mop dueling club floor with student Bellatrix's backside? Very Happy


Molly was born about 1950. Bellatrix was born around 1951, so their ages were similar.


And for the most part I agree with you. Some of the wizards tried to get vengeance... Harry tried to go after Bellatrix when she knocked off Sirius. Vengeance was never really a theme JKR seemed to want to push in her stories.
And if you want to go by vengeance, then why would Neville be a better choice than all the other people that Bellatrix pissed off? She killed and harmed a lot of people... people who had friends and family, too.
I mean, if Neville "deserved" to kill off Bellatrix because of what she did to his parents, then by the same argument, Andromeda should have "deserved" to kill off Bellatrix, too. So why not Andromeda? The argument that Neville should have been the one to finish off Bellatrix because of what she did to his parents just doesn't hold water.
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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i sorta agree but look at mine thats what i believe
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PostPosted: December 4, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Sigh* I still think Neville should've done the honors. Buuut, regardless, he will always be my knight in shining armor. Very Happy Embarassed
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