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Siddhu
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PostPosted: July 16, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonita888 wrote:
How about Nerville?? No one thinks he is smart enough... that would be something... its like Jessica Simpson... she is an idiot, but still, she has loads of money... so nerville is the least thought person for the job... for all I know, he could be acting like and idiot and is an einstein of his time...
Just saying what comes up in my head, nothing coherent... still Harry will die, it is the only logical thing for me to happen...


Neville might die, who knows. Anything possible when you're talking about Harry Potter. But I don't think he's a genius in secret.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I think: Harry's going to be changed forever by destroying the Horcruxes, and he won't tell Ron and Hermione what happened, but the reader knows. And so when the final duel comes, he allows himself to die in order to destroy Voldemort. I really think that JKR should kill him, because it is the most fitting end for him. After all he's been through, he shouldn't go on living.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't necessarily think he should die. I think it's a possibility, but I also think that she could certainly write it in a way that he goes down in history as the boy who fought and won the greatest battle in wizarding history.
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PostPosted: July 17, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but that would be.... too stereotypical, if you ask me. It's almost like a MarySue if he doesn't die: excessively venerating a favorite character by giving him inhuman traits and special powers. Voldemort has to die, yes, but I think that if JKR is really true to her story, she'll kill Harry, too. Though I can understand why people would disagree.
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PostPosted: July 18, 2006 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that's necessarily true, as I think that it all depends on how she writes him living. Plus, I don't necessarily think that he has to have any special powers that no other wizards have, although we do already know that Harry is an especially powerful wizard. I think the possibility has been left open for either one.
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PostPosted: July 18, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that's true, but... I dunno, I think he's gonna die...
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PostPosted: July 19, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay...just so long as we've got that cleared up! LOL
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PostPosted: July 19, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spoiler is not for Harry Potter: I'm using the Bartimaeus trilogy as an example, and the spoiler spoils the ending of the third book. If you've already read it or never plan on doing so, go ahead and read this.

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In the Bartimaeus Trilogy, Nathaniel, one of the main characters, dies to save the world (in a nutshell), and the ending makes you want to cry, but it's fitting. I think death would be a fitting end for Harry. Kind of like Dumbledore; most of us predicted he was going to die sometime since the beginning of the series. Why? Because he was meant to die. It was the right end for him.



But, you're right, of course. He could go on living. But I highly doubt he will come out of his final encounter unscathed.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lily Filarwitz wrote:
But I highly doubt he will come out of his final encounter unscathed.


That's for sure. I'll have a tissue ready when I read the last chapter.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, most definitely. Very Happy
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PostPosted: July 20, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lily Filarwitz wrote:
The spoiler is not for Harry Potter: I'm using the Bartimaeus trilogy as an example, and the spoiler spoils the ending of the third book. If you've already read it or never plan on doing so, go ahead and read this.

Spoiler:

In the Bartimaeus Trilogy, Nathaniel, one of the main characters, dies to save the world (in a nutshell), and the ending makes you want to cry, but it's fitting. I think death would be a fitting end for Harry. Kind of like Dumbledore; most of us predicted he was going to die sometime since the beginning of the series. Why? Because he was meant to die. It was the right end for him.



But, you're right, of course. He could go on living. But I highly doubt he will come out of his final encounter unscathed.


Exactly what I thought!
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PostPosted: October 29, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: Confusing words for sure Reply with quote

These are definately carefully chosen words, but the one thing that stands out is the part about niether surviving while the other lives? What does that mean? It doesn't make sense, they were both alive in every meaning of the word at the end of book 4 right?
Unless it is something like one or both of them is not "fully" alive.
Maybe I am talking the crazy talk, but is anyone following this?
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PostPosted: October 29, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I mean, V wasn't realy "alive" during the first books... and then both of the could live with wach other, because what the profecy said, was true...
I don't know... aghhhhHHHHHHHHHHHH
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PostPosted: November 26, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was! His soul was alive, he just didn't have a body...
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PostPosted: November 28, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not exactly, he was not alive nor dead... that is why those horcroxes (SP?) were for...
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PostPosted: November 29, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the Horcruxes were created so that he couldn't die? When he was near death, he could go get one of his Horcruxes and get his spirit out of them...
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PostPosted: November 30, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Horcrux contains a piece of soul. If you want to die, your whole soul dies, but thats unable when you have stored a piece somewhere else... you're still connected to eath. (It's like making a back-up)
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PostPosted: December 12, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the boy who will save us is comming

his parents are the people whi thrice defied him

hes gonna have power that the dark lord doesnt have=love

this will help him defeat the dark lord

either one will kill the other because they cant both live

thats basically what the prophecy means
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PostPosted: December 31, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lily Filarwitz wrote:
Here's what I think: Harry's going to be changed forever by destroying the Horcruxes, and he won't tell Ron and Hermione what happened, but the reader knows. And so when the final duel comes, he allows himself to die in order to destroy Voldemort. I really think that JKR should kill him, because it is the most fitting end for him. After all he's been through, he shouldn't go on living.


Good theory. It could happen.

I don't want Harry to die though. He deserves a chance to live. Really live.
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PostPosted: December 31, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Worst Nightmare wrote:

hes gonna have power that the dark lord doesnt have=love


Love being the power Voldemort doesn't have seems to obvious. Maybe obvious is good.
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