1. Ron learned a lesson... don't fly a car!
2. It worked out just fine because Ron got a brand new wand.
3. Had DD fixed his wand, Lockhart's spell wouldn't have backfired.
4. As far as everyone was concerned nothing can fix a broken wand. Had DD fixed Ron's wand, it would have been suspicious.
Number 3 is the real reason JKR needed Ron's wand to be broken, and remain so to the end, though.
The wand wouldn't harm Ron though, 'cause Lockhart didn't win it outright, right?
No, Lockhart did take it from Ron by tricking him, lol. But really...
Using someone else's wand doesn't always mean it will never work. It just means it might not work well for you.
For instance, the wand Ron was able to steal and gave to Harry in DH, it didn't work perfectly. But he was able to do spells with it, which he practiced with outside the tent. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
No, Lockhart did take it from Ron by tricking him, lol. But really...
Using someone else's wand doesn't always mean it will never work. It just means it might not work well for you.
For instance, the wand Ron was able to steal and gave to Harry in DH, it didn't work perfectly. But he was able to do spells with it, which he practiced with outside the tent.
I don't think the wand would be able to harm it's true master though. Lockhart didn't win it in a duel, did he? I didn't read Chamber of Secrets in so long, my memory is foggy. But, according to this new wandlore business, and if my memory of what occured in CoS is correct, Ron would've been safe 'cause the wand wouldn't of harmed its rightful master. Rght?
I think that rule only applied to the Elder Wand, it seemed extra loyal and such. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
The trio learned the Summoning Charm in their fourth year. And Harry didnt' learn it in class until Hermione taught him. And Harry learned the Shield Charm from Hermione, not in class.
It was merely hyperbole, trying to properly convey how rudimentary those two spells were. Nothing mind blowing that Ginny wouldn't know.
The fact still remains that Ginny was a whole year younger than them, and according to every book in the series, one year makes a big difference in knowledge and skill.
GinnyX wrote:
they neevr considered it. harry thought it sounded "tempting" but...
DH ch 11, pg 211 (US edition)
"f Dumbledore didn't tell you I don't think I can."
That would be considering. =/ He's obviously not dead set on not letting him come along, and is probably mulling over the benifits of letting Lupin in on their little excursion.
In Half Blood Prince when Dumbledore first told Harry about his horcrux theory he made Harry promise not to tell anyone other than Ron and Hermione, Harry isn't the type to break his promises, especially to Dumbledore. That's why he didn't take Ginny along.
GinnyX wrote:
She's not a trained dog.
I was saying she was a good writer, and implying that she has a pedigree in fine prose. Pedigree does not strictly refer to dogs and animals.
Um, I think on this one you were discussing why Voldemort didn't check Harrys body himself, the answer is simply because he was afraid of what the answer would be. It's like opening a letter and your afraid of what it will say so you have someone else read it for you. Also Voldemort was so arrogant he had no reason to beleive that Narcissa valued anything above himself.
GinnyX wrote:
You completely missed my point.
I'm not refuting your claim that the information isn't correct. I am refuting your claim that wiki is always accurate. You then showed me a quote from a magazine. A magazine who every week posts corrections.
Again, I'm not refuting your claim. However, if you are going to call something "proof," it shouldn't be somethng that has to be cross-referenced, first, like an entertainment mag or a wiki page, which most schools ban students from using as official references because of their sheer number of inaccuracies.
And I don't use my word. I use JKR's word.
So, I take it you don't disagree with my point, just that you don't like that I used a Harry Potter Wiki page and an EW article as proof? I geddit XB, you couldn't properly refute my statement so you try to discredit my sources. Admirable.
This one was about weather the victory was Harrys or Dumbledores, and weather or not Harry was brave(at least it was originally). I think the victory went to them both, Dumbledore sort of paved the way but it was Harry who fullfilled the deed. And all the work and plannig that Dumbledore did would have been for nothing if Harry wasn't brave enough to act. Yes he could have used any spell and would have got the same outcome. It was actually a combination between the intelligence to figure out the fact that he was indeed the true master of the wand and the bravery to put his theory to the test. What I liked best about it was the fact that he killed the dark lord using expelliarmus, a spell which he was told by members of the order that he shouldn't use because the death eaters considered it his signature move and beleived it was the best he was capable of, he sure showed them.
teackes wrote:
Sorry to butt in, Gin <3 but the n00b likes to ignore the obvious.
Ginny's abilities aren't important because she can not use magic. So either find some reason that they should have brought her along, other than her skills as a witch, or you've lost that argument.
Geez woman, if you're going to insult me, at least use some class. =/
I technically already lost that argument, since I kind of let it go a few posts back. I said it was just a difference in direction I would've taken with the story, and that the point was moot. Why don't you not attack the most insignificant part or my post, and refute my other, more established, and better defended arguments instead of ducking behind GinnyX and shooting off such big, hurtful words like "noob" and calling me ignorant (which I take offense to because I believe I'm very open minded)?
I don't see why you're so hostile to me in the first place, I've done nothing other than disagree with you on something.
I'd have to say that your last comment was much more hostile that the one that it refferd to. Though I do agree that the word noob is thown around to much in this forum, just because we're new to the forum doesn't mean we're new to Harry Potter, or any less intelligent than anyone who's been here longer than us.
Wow, this is quite verbal dual you two have going on, I'd like to put in my two cents.
I don't know how to post separate quotes so I wrote my opinions in the quote I took from you.
Though I do agree that the word noob is thown around to much in this forum, just because we're new to the forum doesn't mean we're new to Harry Potter, or any less intelligent than anyone who's been here longer than us.
n00b means someone who is new. Not necassarily new to Harry Potter, but new in other ways, too. It's usually an affectionate term, as some of the older posters here tend to take n00bs under their wings. There is no ill-will meant towards that phrase, nor should it be taken so seriously. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
Though I do agree that the word noob is thown around to much in this forum, just because we're new to the forum doesn't mean we're new to Harry Potter, or any less intelligent than anyone who's been here longer than us.
n00b means someone who is new. Not necassarily new to Harry Potter, but new in other ways, too. It's usually an affectionate term, as some of the older posters here tend to take n00bs under their wings. There is no ill-will meant towards that phrase, nor should it be taken so seriously.
The term noob has actually transcended the usual definition of someone who is new, and has taken on the new meaning of someone who is ignorant, not smart, not in the know, just plain annoying (either by their ignorance or some other factor), or foolhardy. Newb is now the docile term for someone that is new.
Noob is considered widely offensive.
However, I didn't get offended, I was actually sarcastic about the "big, hurtful" words thing. To get offended by the word noob, or anything else on the Net, is stupid because people will be dicks regardless. That's attributable to their anonymity, so you have to get used to it or just stop socializing on the net. I learned that a long time ago.
Moving on, your quoting confused me, Anyia, and you had me thinking I typed some of your replies. Anyways, most everything you said in reply to me was brought up already, and I applied the appropriate rebuttal. Check back a few pages to get the full gist of it.
And this is hardly a duel between us (if anything, it was a handicapped (don't get offended, it means someone had an advantage) brawl with me versus teacakes, Arabella and Ginny >.>). I harbor no ill-will towards any of my opponents.
she is such an amazeing writter~! she really is inspiring i look foward all the time to reading her books i have read harry potter 5 times over and iam proud!!! lolzz _________________
I think I posted in here before, but I'll do it again (muahahaha lol). She's been my role model and inspiration in writing since Harry Potter came out! She's brilliant! _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
She`s awesome! I love that we have to re-read the books to catch some important little hidden bits. She`s an amazing writer!
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she really is inspiring i look foward all the time to reading her books i have read harry potter 5 times over and iam proud!!! lolzz
