i've been thinking about how magic is used and based off of my previous posts, you guys know that i get carried away with this subject. After observing that even after powerful spells, wizards and witches do not get exhausted. What if magic flows freely in a different dimension and a wizard only has a power to channel that magic and shape it in our reality. Perhaps magic was sealed away a long time ago and can only be called forth by wizards. this is the only way i can think that they can shoot off spell after spell without getting exhausted, because if magic does indeed come from within the wizard themselves, then after using some unforgivable curses or extremely powerful magic, it would seem only logical that the user be drained. _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
I'm sure they do get tired after awhile... why wouldn't they? _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
its just that in the books i don't remember them getting exhausted. the charms professor was throwing up barriers like it was nothing, the death eater was randomly shooting off spells in book six during the big battle at hogwarts and he wasn't using minor jinxes either. It just seems that they are able to pull off large spells without much reprecussions on themselves. _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
its just that in the books i don't remember them getting exhausted. the charms professor was throwing up barriers like it was nothing, the death eater was randomly shooting off spells in book six during the big battle at hogwarts and he wasn't using minor jinxes either. It just seems that they are able to pull off large spells without much reprecussions on themselves.
At the very end Harry was happily looking forward to his bed. Granted, he also hadn't slept in a couple of days, lol.
At the end of every battle they always seem disshevelled. Just becaues JKR doesn't write, Harry was so extremely tired after all those spells he hurled... doesn't mean they don't get tired. And it probably isn't the magic itself that makes them tired, just the activity that comes along with it and the stress of nearly dying.
I mean, if you think they would get tired from just standing there pointing a stick, then no, probably not. Unless you count the fact that human beings do get tired after awhile, no matter what activity they are doing.
Human beings need sleep, it doesn't matter why. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
I read another series involving magic (The Dresden Files - the protagonist of which also happens to be a wizard named Harry ), and can't help comparing the two sometimes. In The Dresden Files they do tire out from using magic. I believe I remember one instance where he tires himself to the point that he's afraid he's damaged his ability to use magic ever again.
I like maximus's theory about magic being free-flowing and the wizards channeling it. Though I think even that might tire them out - trying to take hold of that much power and shape it into something useful could be extremely taxing. _________________ I don't have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once. But by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor's dog. ~ Dwight Schrute
I really don't see how the magic itself would be draining... but I can see if the wizards got tired in general.
In Buffy, Willow got drained from using magic... but that was because she had to channel all these wacky forces and stuff.
In HP, they're channeling the magic from within themselves. I mean, they could very well get tired from it... but again, wouldn't any human get tired after awhile? _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
i guess what i'm comparing magic use to is the magic in eragon. they state that to use a spell, requires the same amount of energy as it would normally take to complete the task by hand. Maybe, in the potterverse it wouldn't work the same way, but if spells come from the users own energy, then when a spell is used, that energy must disappear from being used up, therefore, tiring the wizard and limiting the amount of spells and types of spells that are within the user's ability to perform at a given time...wow, i hope i phrased that right:) _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
i guess what i'm comparing magic use to is the magic in eragon. they state that to use a spell, requires the same amount of energy as it would normally take to complete the task by hand. Maybe, in the potterverse it wouldn't work the same way, but if spells come from the users own energy, then when a spell is used, that energy must disappear from being used up, therefore, tiring the wizard and limiting the amount of spells and types of spells that are within the user's ability to perform at a given time...wow, i hope i phrased that right:)
It's fun to compare, but I don't think that this "tiring from magic" thing works in this series.
They are human and inevitably will become tired. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
Well, if you've read the OotP carefully, you would see that in the Department of Mysteries there is a door that wouldn't open my alohamora, or by Sirius's special knife, or probably anything else. When Harry was talking with Dumbledore later in that book, he asked him about that room, Dumbledore said something mysterious, something like there exists love or something (correct me if I'm wrong), but I think that Maximus's theory about magic could be that magic is sealed away in that room. What do the rest think about this?
Also, I read Eragon (only the 1st book) and it says there that using magic exhausts you as much as it would if you used you're physical abilities to cause it. So if you try to break a solid wall by magic, imagine how much it would take for you to do it with your physical possibilities?
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well, in eragon, the point is to find the easiest way to do it, for example, instead of pointing your whole force on the solid wall, you would use your ability without detriment by poking at it to find weaknesses and push on those weaknesses. _________________ Ice shall instill the heart of man...only silence will remain
Well, if wizards don't get tired from magic, then they are even more powerful (bordering the threshold of omnipotent) if they can tirelssly spam spells with no repercussions for their actions. Surely there must be some price for this flamboyant use of magic?
I think it would be just average human tiredness. Think about it... how long can you hold your arm up without getting tired? How long can you run around dodging Curses coming at you from all ends? I dont' think magic can b e used up... but I think that wizards are only human and will eventually want to put their arm down and take a nap. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan "To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie." ~ Anya <3
I think it would be just average human tiredness. Think about it... how long can you hold your arm up without getting tired? How long can you run around dodging Curses coming at you from all ends? I dont' think magic can b e used up... but I think that wizards are only human and will eventually want to put their arm down and take a nap.
Oh, of course they get tired from the physical application of the spells, and the physical exertion produced when they dodge their opponent's. If they didn't, I want to know what they're taking to keep such stamina.
But, adrenaline alone would cover the arm waving and sprinting, and rolling which is about all that will occur in a duel. It's not like what they're doing is physically grueling. Obviously, when seventy-somethings can do it without much consequence, or even loss of breath, it's quite easy to consider a more able bodied person doing it all day without so much of a pause. I can wave my arm around as if waving a wand, but the only reason I would stop is because it's boring and I look utterly foolish.
i've been thinking about how magic is used and based off of my previous posts, you guys know that i get carried away with this subject. After observing that even after powerful spells, wizards and witches do not get exhausted. What if magic flows freely in a different dimension and a wizard only has a power to channel that magic and shape it in our reality. Perhaps magic was sealed away a long time ago and can only be called forth by wizards. this is the only way i can think that they can shoot off spell after spell without getting exhausted, because if magic does indeed come from within the wizard themselves, then after using some unforgivable curses or extremely powerful magic, it would seem only logical that the user be drained.
When I read this it made me think of Naruto as an example of wizards using magic from within themselves. In Naruto they use chakra to do their techniques(which sorta seem like magic). The chakra is also their life force, if they use advanced techniques they become extremly tired and can even die if they use up all of their chakra, they usually need plenty of rest between using chakra. I don't think the wizards in harry potter use magic from within themselves, I think it would run out eventually(at least temporarily). I think it is mentioned somewhere in the books(I could be wrong) that magic flows throughout the world, the muggles just can't see it, I think they use the magic that lives in the world around them. That explains why they can continuously use spells without it draining the magic from them. I think when in battle they to become tired just from the workout they get from running around, jumping and what not. That's my opinion anyway.
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), and can't help comparing the two sometimes. In The Dresden Files they do tire out from using magic. I believe I remember one instance where he tires himself to the point that he's afraid he's damaged his ability to use magic ever again.
