Isnt it amazing how she connects everything? One thing i noticed is that in the first book harry has a dream that draco turns into snape. and then in the seventh book we find out that dumbledore has snape kill him instead of draco.... and in the second book harry mentions that he has a feeling that hagrids old school wand was in his umbrella. and there is obviously a wand in the umbrella as we all know. but it was broken in half when he was expelled. so it couldn't be fixed unless it was done with the elder wand that no one knew about yet. and there are so many other things that she connects through out the whole story. it amazes me how good she did with connecting everything in the story. _________________ If u dont live for anything then u die for nothing.
She's good...but have you read A song of Ice and fire? There are 4 books out. Each is about 1000 pages long. It's a somewhat complex plot. _________________
Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.
There is so much in her books that happened in the first couple books that you actually find out that they really mattered in the last.. It's amazing. _________________
"You lied to me."
"I got a jar of dirt!"
"Welcome to the caribbean, love."
I never made the connection with Hagrids Wand and the full wand being put back together by the Elder Wand. No wonder why Hagrid was so grateful. _________________
She is rather amazing.
I wish that when I write, I could connect all the things like she does. _________________ I support ; Dean/Ginny, Lucius/Ginny , Lucius/Narcissa, Blaise/Pansy, Draco/Astoria, Bill/Fluer, Teddy/Victoire.
She's pretty good, but the sign of last minute changing and bullshitting is evident.[/i].
where is this evident?
Deathly Hallows had the feel of a book that was seven hundred pages but required about a thousand to fully tell the story. The pacing was erratic as well. It was drudging along at a slow clip, then--BAM--the snowball of plot hit its peak barely after it started. Things were brought up and resolved in quick succession.
She also retconned some things, or just simply ignored them. Although I can forgive the halt of character progression, since it is the close of the series and everything, relationships were just thrown in there out of nowhere, building nearly all of its foundation in Deathly Hallows alone. Although I think that the Hermione/Ron pairing was handled nicely, the Ginny/Harry was a disaster. His reason for leaving her was voided two-hundred pages into the book--Ginny was in as much danger as Harry throughout the entire novel. It seemed almost tacked on for fanatical appeal.
It also felt like Rowling was anxious to get to the final Riddle/Harry scene, and just skated over the Ravenclaw diadem part to arrive to that final destination. The Gray Lady? Really?
In the end, the final battle was unfulfilling to me. It didn't give me that, "Wow! Voldemort finally got dusted, I feel like boning someone now!" that I've been waiting for throughout the entire series. I know it would've been implausible to have Harry fight toe-to-toe with Voldermort, 'cause frankly, he would've been demolished in seven-tenths of a second. The Peverell Legacy with the Deathly Hollows was well writeen and connected, but it lead to a lackluster climax and disappointing falling action.
She's pretty good, but the sign of last minute changing and bullshitting is evident.[/i].
where is this evident?
Deathly Hallows had the feel of a book that was seven hundred pages but required about a thousand to fully tell the story. The pacing was erratic as well. It was drudging along at a slow clip, then--BAM--the snowball of plot hit its peak barely after it started. Things were brought up and resolved in quick succession.
She also retconned some things, or just simply ignored them. Although I can forgive the halt of character progression, since it is the close of the series and everything, relationships were just thrown in there out of nowhere, building nearly all of its foundation in Deathly Hallows alone. Although I think that the Hermione/Ron pairing was handled nicely, the Ginny/Harry was a disaster. His reason for leaving her was voided two-hundred pages into the book--Ginny was in as much danger as Harry throughout the entire novel. It seemed almost tacked on for fanatical appeal.
It also felt like Rowling was anxious to get to the final Riddle/Harry scene, and just skated over the Ravenclaw diadem part to arrive to that final destination. The Gray Lady? Really?
In the end, the final battle was unfulfilling to me. It didn't give me that, "Wow! Voldemort finally got dusted, I feel like boning someone now!" that I've been waiting for throughout the entire series. I know it would've been implausible to have Harry fight toe-to-toe with Voldermort, 'cause frankly, he would've been demolished in seven-tenths of a second. The Peverell Legacy with the Deathly Hollows was well writeen and connected, but it lead to a lackluster climax and disappointing falling action.
lol I don't agree. of course the pacing was off...that's how life works. nothing nothing nothing and then BAM. it never rains but it pours. I thought it was realistic. and I really liked the diadem part...particularly with the Grey Lady and I think it was just the right length. It also connected back nicely to Voldy being in Albania and Harry hiding his potions book. and the final battle...I think the problem is people focus in on the one-on-one show down. But one of the themes of the books is unity and friendship...how Harry needed the help of his friends instead of pushing them away and doing it on his own. The actual battel was quite long really, and everybody had a part to play. I loved it. I'll admit it felt a little bit anticlimactic but only because expectations were so high. but after I came down a little I realized I actually liked it just the way it was. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
so hagrid's wand was fixed? where does it say that?
lol, for some reason this made me laugh. It doesn't say that his wand is fixed, but we can safely assume that it is since DD had the only wand that could fix it and DD was the only person who knew about Hagrid's wand being inside his umbrella. Hagrid would not have been able to safely pull off magic with a broken wand . . . remember Ron's broken wand -- disasterous! _________________
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I think it is rather interesting. But of course, J.K. Rowling does have the intelligence enough to do something like that - even more so really. _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
She's pretty good, but the sign of last minute changing and bullshitting is evident.[/i].
where is this evident?
Deathly Hallows had the feel of a book that was seven hundred pages but required about a thousand to fully tell the story. The pacing was erratic as well. It was drudging along at a slow clip, then--BAM--the snowball of plot hit its peak barely after it started. Things were brought up and resolved in quick succession.
She also retconned some things, or just simply ignored them. Although I can forgive the halt of character progression, since it is the close of the series and everything, relationships were just thrown in there out of nowhere, building nearly all of its foundation in Deathly Hallows alone. Although I think that the Hermione/Ron pairing was handled nicely, the Ginny/Harry was a disaster. His reason for leaving her was voided two-hundred pages into the book--Ginny was in as much danger as Harry throughout the entire novel. It seemed almost tacked on for fanatical appeal.
It also felt like Rowling was anxious to get to the final Riddle/Harry scene, and just skated over the Ravenclaw diadem part to arrive to that final destination. The Gray Lady? Really?
In the end, the final battle was unfulfilling to me. It didn't give me that, "Wow! Voldemort finally got dusted, I feel like boning someone now!" that I've been waiting for throughout the entire series. I know it would've been implausible to have Harry fight toe-to-toe with Voldermort, 'cause frankly, he would've been demolished in seven-tenths of a second. The Peverell Legacy with the Deathly Hollows was well writeen and connected, but it lead to a lackluster climax and disappointing falling action.
lol I don't agree. of course the pacing was off...that's how life works. nothing nothing nothing and then BAM. it never rains but it pours. I thought it was realistic. and I really liked the diadem part...particularly with the Grey Lady and I think it was just the right length. It also connected back nicely to Voldy being in Albania and Harry hiding his potions book. and the final battle...I think the problem is people focus in on the one-on-one show down. But one of the themes of the books is unity and friendship...how Harry needed the help of his friends instead of pushing them away and doing it on his own. The actual battel was quite long really, and everybody had a part to play. I loved it. I'll admit it felt a little bit anticlimactic but only because expectations were so high. but after I came down a little I realized I actually liked it just the way it was.
well try... you rememeb r the first book... when the ghosts are introduced... they say.. bloody baron had some silver stans on his his robes.... so right from the first book we could see the ghost having mark of that.. and gray lady had always been related to the diadem... it dint just happen suddenly in book 7 _________________
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She's pretty good, but the sign of last minute changing and bullshitting is evident.[/i].
where is this evident?
Deathly Hallows had the feel of a book that was seven hundred pages but required about a thousand to fully tell the story. The pacing was erratic as well. It was drudging along at a slow clip, then--BAM--the snowball of plot hit its peak barely after it started. Things were brought up and resolved in quick succession.
She also retconned some things, or just simply ignored them. Although I can forgive the halt of character progression, since it is the close of the series and everything, relationships were just thrown in there out of nowhere, building nearly all of its foundation in Deathly Hallows alone. Although I think that the Hermione/Ron pairing was handled nicely, the Ginny/Harry was a disaster. His reason for leaving her was voided two-hundred pages into the book--Ginny was in as much danger as Harry throughout the entire novel. It seemed almost tacked on for fanatical appeal.
It also felt like Rowling was anxious to get to the final Riddle/Harry scene, and just skated over the Ravenclaw diadem part to arrive to that final destination. The Gray Lady? Really?
In the end, the final battle was unfulfilling to me. It didn't give me that, "Wow! Voldemort finally got dusted, I feel like boning someone now!" that I've been waiting for throughout the entire series. I know it would've been implausible to have Harry fight toe-to-toe with Voldermort, 'cause frankly, he would've been demolished in seven-tenths of a second. The Peverell Legacy with the Deathly Hollows was well writeen and connected, but it lead to a lackluster climax and disappointing falling action.
(I think all character relationships were done extremely well, they weren't rushed, grew gradually over time and came into there own in the last book. The Ginny/Harry relationship was done considerately well, as Harry had fully fledged reasons for disconnecting in order to find the Horcruxes, knowing full well he may never see her again. He ended it as he thought by doing so he could concentrate fully on the task at hand, of course he would think about her often--he wouldn't be human if he didn't.
As for the climax, I was really into it--the whole atmosphere had been built just for this one final moment, it was extremely REALISTIC. Harry would not be able to defeat Voldemort through duelling skill, the only way he could of and DID defeat him was by that head-to-head collision of two spells, and did so because he had 10x more courage/ready to die/etc.)
(I think all character relationships were done extremely well, they weren't rushed, grew gradually over time and came into there own in the last book. The Ginny/Harry relationship was done considerately well, as Harry had fully fledged reasons for disconnecting in order to find the Horcruxes, knowing full well he may never see her again. He ended it as he thought by doing so he could concentrate fully on the task at hand, of course he would think about her often--he wouldn't be human if he didn't.
As for the climax, I was really into it--the whole atmosphere had been built just for this one final moment, it was extremely REALISTIC. Harry would not be able to defeat Voldemort through duelling skill, the only way he could of and DID defeat him was by that head-to-head collision of two spells, and did so because he had 10x more courage/ready to die/etc.)
Fully fledged reasons that he reneged on as soon as he got to the Burrow. He can't use the "I don't want to put you and your family in danger because they'll use you to get to me" bullshit, 'cause he was still travelling with Ron. So, either way, Ginny would always be in danger. So, that break-up was voided as soon as it was brought up.
Harry didn't win because of courage, he won because it was rigged for him to win since the ending of Half-Blood Prince. In reality, Dumbledore defeated Tom Riddle, through Harry.
that would be true if Dumbledore meant for that to happen...but he had intended snape to become master of the wand and let its power die. _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
(I think all character relationships were done extremely well, they weren't rushed, grew gradually over time and came into there own in the last book. The Ginny/Harry relationship was done considerately well, as Harry had fully fledged reasons for disconnecting in order to find the Horcruxes, knowing full well he may never see her again. He ended it as he thought by doing so he could concentrate fully on the task at hand, of course he would think about her often--he wouldn't be human if he didn't.
As for the climax, I was really into it--the whole atmosphere had been built just for this one final moment, it was extremely REALISTIC. Harry would not be able to defeat Voldemort through duelling skill, the only way he could of and DID defeat him was by that head-to-head collision of two spells, and did so because he had 10x more courage/ready to die/etc.)
Fully fledged reasons that he reneged on as soon as he got to the Burrow. He can't use the "I don't want to put you and your family in danger because they'll use you to get to me" bullshit, 'cause he was still travelling with Ron. So, either way, Ginny would always be in danger. So, that break-up was voided as soon as it was brought up.
Harry didn't win because of courage, he won because it was rigged for him to win since the ending of Half-Blood Prince. In reality, Dumbledore defeated Tom Riddle, through Harry.
Harry was taken to the Burrow and he tried to talk to Ron about coming with him.
He was afraid Voldemort would use Ginny specifically, thinking she was closest to him.
Harry walked up to Voldemort and stood there waiting for Voldemort to kill him. He didn't know it wouldn't work. How is that not brave?
DD didnt' teach him expelliarmus, he didn't even tell Harry to keep using it. Harry had help, but he did plenty on his own, too. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
Harry was taken to the Burrow and he tried to talk to Ron about coming with him.
Hermione and Ron talked Harry into letting them come with him at the end of HBP.
GinnyX wrote:
He was afraid Voldemort would use Ginny specifically, thinking she was closest to him.
Reasonable, I'll take that point. I believed Harry should've let Ginny come with him, honestly.
GinnyX wrote:
Harry walked up to Voldemort and stood there waiting for Voldemort to kill him. He didn't know it wouldn't work. How is that not brave?
Now this was a huge oversight on moldy Voldy's part. If I wanted something dead so powerfully, I would've inspected the "corpse" myself. I would've aslo done something more revealing than the Cruciatus Curse. Eh, guess we needed a valid reason to keep Harry alive. =/
GinnxyX wrote:
DD didnt' teach him expelliarmus, he didn't even tell Harry to keep using it. Harry had help, but he did plenty on his own, too.
Hrry could've used any spell invented by man or otherwise and the same thing would have happened. Whether it be the Shield Charm or some spell to increase the size of his junk--it didn't matter. The Elder Wand could not harm it's rightful master. The winner of that (lol) "duel" was predetermined before the seventh book even started.
Arabella wrote:
that would be true if Dumbledore meant for that to happen...but he had intended snape to become master of the wand and let its power die.
Does it matter if he intended for that to happen? No. Dumbledore still was the reason things happened that way. By Dumbledore's initiative, Harry became the true master of death. And only by Dumbledore's doing as well.
DD didnt' teach him expelliarmus, he didn't even tell Harry to keep using it. Harry had help, but he did plenty on his own, too.
Hrry could've used any spell invented by man or otherwise and the same thing would have happened. Whether it be the Shield Charm or some spell to increase the size of his junk--it didn't matter. The Elder Wand could not harm it's rightful master. The winner of that (lol) "duel" was predetermined before the seventh book even started.
The winner of the duel was determined only when Harry took Draco's wand. _________________ "The best of us must sometimes eat our words." -- Albus Dumbledore
um no. if Dumbledore was responsible in that way so was Draco Malfoy for disarming DD instead of Snape. To Draco Malfoy, the true hero of our story! _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
The winner of the duel was determined only when Harry took Draco's wand.
You're right. The winner of that duel was determined seven-tenths through the final book. Doesn't have the same ring to it.
Arabella wrote:
um no. if Dumbledore was responsible in that way so was Draco Malfoy for disarming DD instead of Snape. To Draco Malfoy, the true hero of our story!
Sure, if you want. Dumbledore let it happen. You can include all the side-characters you wish, but the summation is that Dumbledore is the cause, and Harry's win was the effect. Harry should thank the heavens that exchange happened.
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