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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: 'Put - Outer' Reply with quote

i was reading the begining of PS/SS stone today and it said that dumbledore used a 'put - outer' to remove the lights in the first chapter. well in later books it said that it was called the deluminator ((sp?)) why did the name change?
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: 'Put - Outer' Reply with quote

Because we (the reader) didn't know the name of it, yet.
It put the lights out, hence, put-outer. But it didn't really put the lights out.. it sort of trapped them inside of the contraption. But instead of explaining it all in the beginning, JKR saved it for us til later.
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooooh ok thanks Smile
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's also possible jk rowling. thought of a cooler name for it after writing ps/ss
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arabella wrote:
it's also possible jk rowling. thought of a cooler name for it after writing ps/ss


lol, I really hope the original word for it wasn't put-outer. This coming from the same woman who thought up the words Quidditch, Hogsmeade, and Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Bean.
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think put-outer is a funny name, albeit simplistic. I wouldn't be disappointed.
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PostPosted: June 23, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think she called it a put-outeer because she was trying to show things from a muggle point of view in the first few chapters. We didn't officially get introduced to the wizarding world until Harry did. She wanted to make sure that we had a fresh view of it as Harry entered into the world. I don't know if I am explaining myself right. If there is any confusion, then I'll try again later.
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PostPosted: June 25, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She used 'muggle' before we knew what it was, a wizard called Dursley one the day after Voldy 'died' the first time. Dunno if that helps or hinders the argument lol.
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PostPosted: June 25, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacakes wrote:
She used 'muggle' before we knew what it was, a wizard called Dursley one the day after Voldy 'died' the first time. Dunno if that helps or hinders the argument lol.


It actually helps, because it was heard from the muggles PoV.
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PostPosted: June 27, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting point zenny

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PostPosted: July 15, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put-Outer was in capital letters, therefore insinuating it was the name of the device. Rowling probably just said " EDITED it, nobody will remember, I'll change it to Deluminator."


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PostPosted: July 20, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and deluminatior sounds fancier too.
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