Just out of curiosity, was Voldemorts mom able to speak it as well? We knew her father and brother (Morphin) could. Also, Do you think every heir of Salazar had this ability? _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
Well, his father couldn't speak parseltonge (you got that wrong) because he was a muggle, although his mother I think could speak, but didn't want to. I think every heir of slitherin could speak parsletongue, but I'm not sure... _________________ Post Count = Number of Posts + 1
Well, his father couldn't speak parseltonge (you got that wrong) because he was a muggle, although his mother I think could speak, but didn't want to. I think every heir of slitherin could speak parsletongue, but I'm not sure...
DM said "her father." meaning, Merope's father. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
Well, his father couldn't speak parseltonge (you got that wrong) because he was a muggle, although his mother I think could speak, but didn't want to. I think every heir of slitherin could speak parsletongue, but I'm not sure...
DM said "her father." meaning, Merope's father.
Correct. _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
Hmm, Well, do you think the heirs the were more close to the blood line could speak it better? _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
Hmm, Well, do you think the heirs the were more close to the blood line could speak it better?
You mean like the direct descendants? It's very possible. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
Hmm, Well, do you think the heirs the were more close to the blood line could speak it better?
You mean like the direct descendants? It's very possible.
Yeah, those nut jobs who married there cousins to keep the blood line "pure". _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
I think every heir could speak it,not distantly though.I don't think Merope spoke it very often though,because as Dumbldore said she was restrained(not exact word I know)with her magic when she lived with her father and barly spoke so why speak in parseltongue
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
More common? Wasn't Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin?
Or do you mean that other Parselmouths would have passed it on and thus it would be more common? I doubt it, since Voldemort was the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin himself, so all the other Parselmouth-speaking blood-lines must have died out. _________________ "The best of us must sometimes eat our words." -- Albus Dumbledore
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
More common? Wasn't Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin?
Or do you mean that other Parselmouths would have passed it on and thus it would be more common? I doubt it, since Voldemort was the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin himself, so all the other Parselmouth-speaking blood-lines must have died out.
Riddles family before him spoke it. I was asking if there families families families spoke it as well. _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
More common? Wasn't Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin?
Or do you mean that other Parselmouths would have passed it on and thus it would be more common? I doubt it, since Voldemort was the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin himself, so all the other Parselmouth-speaking blood-lines must have died out.
yes. Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin. Unless Morfin had kids, which i highly doubt.
I believe that any descendant of Slytherin, Squib or not could and properly use Paseltongue.
And i have to disagree with you there. about the part of Voldemort being the first Parselmouth since Slytherin himself. I believe that no one can just simply pass it on. Yes, it is a language, but i believe its not a language anyone can learn. its something thats inherited. like English, for some. _________________ Patronus: Lion! (meow)
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I've also wondered why there should be a barrier to someone learning parseltongue. I suppose it could be a matter of pronunciation; perhaps it's hard to grasp if you aren't born with the ability, and that impedes you being able to use it properly.
I would have thought it could have something to do with a snake's sense of hearing. It's been generally accepted that since snakes have no external ears, they can only 'hear' vibrations that pass through the ground, through their jawbone, and on to their auditory (ear) bones. That could have suggested that parselmouths were born with some ability to produce sounds in a manner that most people can't. However, there's been some recent evidence that snakes can possibly hear airborn sound in the 200 - 300 Hz range - well within the range of most human voices. _________________ I don't have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once. But by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor's dog. ~ Dwight Schrute
Well, his father couldn't speak Parseltongue. But I guess his mother could, she was a descendant of Salazar Slytherin as well so I guess she could, if her brother and father could. _________________
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Did you mean to say "his father?" As in Voldemort's father? Because her father, Merope's father, definiitely could, as could she. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
More common? Wasn't Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin?
Or do you mean that other Parselmouths would have passed it on and thus it would be more common? I doubt it, since Voldemort was the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin himself, so all the other Parselmouth-speaking blood-lines must have died out.
yes. Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin. Unless Morfin had kids, which i highly doubt.
I believe that any descendant of Slytherin, Squib or not could and properly use Paseltongue.
And i have to disagree with you there. about the part of Voldemort being the first Parselmouth since Slytherin himself. I believe that no one can just simply pass it on. Yes, it is a language, but i believe its not a language anyone can learn. its something thats inherited. like English, for some.
Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth since Salazar Slytherin (CoS chapter 17: "...There are strange likenesses between us, after all. Even you must have noticed. Both half-bloods, orphans, raised by Muggles. Probably the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great Slytherin himself..."), at least if we take his word for it (apparently, the Gaunts didn't learn at Hogwarts).
Regarding the inheritance of the language:
As I explained in another thread some time ago, it appears that there is a difference between being a Parselmouth and speaking Parseltongue. If you are a Parselmouth, that means you have a natural ability to speak the language (to the extent that you don't realize you're speaking it, like Harry). Parseltongue is also a language that can be learnt (Dumbledore knew it, Ron managed to speak a word in it), but if you learnt it you would have to actually focus on making the hissing sounds. Similar to the difference between a Metamorphmagus and human transfiguration.
Therefore, I believe the language is inherited, although it is rare. Metamorphmagi are also rare, but Tonks's son inherited it. Similarly, I think the Parselmouth ability runs in families, but if Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin, I think it's safe to assume that all the other Parselmouth blood-lines ran out (in Britain at least). _________________ "The best of us must sometimes eat our words." -- Albus Dumbledore
Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth since Salazar Slytherin (CoS chapter 17: "...There are strange likenesses between us, after all. Even you must have noticed. Both half-bloods, orphans, raised by Muggles. Probably the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great Slytherin himself..."), at least if we take his word for it (apparently, the Gaunts didn't learn at Hogwarts).
He said "probably." He might not have known his relatives were parselmouths.
Also, parseltongue is the name of the language. Parselmouth is what you call the person who speaks it. _________________ Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth since Salazar Slytherin (CoS chapter 17: "...There are strange likenesses between us, after all. Even you must have noticed. Both half-bloods, orphans, raised by Muggles. Probably the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great Slytherin himself..."), at least if we take his word for it (apparently, the Gaunts didn't learn at Hogwarts).
He said "probably." He might not have known his relatives were parselmouths.
Also, parseltongue is the name of the language. Parselmouth is what you call the person who speaks it.
Probably is the key word, folks. He was unsure about it and that's possibly why he went searching for his family to being with. _________________ Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through Passion, I gain strength.
Through Strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
i dunno guys because in dh chapter 15... rita spoke parseltongue to harry regarding his relations with luna and how ginny would not approve. this was after she caught them making out at the wedding, of course. _________________
Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth since Salazar Slytherin (CoS chapter 17: "...There are strange likenesses between us, after all. Even you must have noticed. Both half-bloods, orphans, raised by Muggles. Probably the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great Slytherin himself..."), at least if we take his word for it (apparently, the Gaunts didn't learn at Hogwarts).
He said "probably." He might not have known his relatives were parselmouths.
He spoke to Morfin in Parseltongue, of course he knew they were Parselmouths.
GinnyX wrote:
Also, parseltongue is the name of the language. Parselmouth is what you call the person who speaks it.
That's pretty much what I explained; a Parselmouth is a person who has the (natural) ability to speak the language called Parseltongue (which can be learned by anyone).
ravvy wrote:
i dunno guys because in dh chapter 15... rita spoke parseltongue to harry regarding his relations with luna and how ginny would not approve. this was after she caught them making out at the wedding, of course.
Rita could speak Parseltongue because she was a beetle Animagus, and beetles and snakes share certain magical attributes (as we find out in the new prequel by JKR). _________________ "The best of us must sometimes eat our words." -- Albus Dumbledore
I don't believe that every heir of Slytherin can speak the language... otherwise it might have been more common, I would think.
And yes, Merope could speak.. or at least understand... parseltongue. In chapter 10, page 210 (US edition) she responds to Morfin, teasing her in parseltongue.
More common? Wasn't Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin?
Or do you mean that other Parselmouths would have passed it on and thus it would be more common? I doubt it, since Voldemort was the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin himself, so all the other Parselmouth-speaking blood-lines must have died out.
yes. Voldemort was the only remaining heir of Slytherin. Unless Morfin had kids, which i highly doubt.
I believe that any descendant of Slytherin, Squib or not could and properly use Paseltongue.
And i have to disagree with you there. about the part of Voldemort being the first Parselmouth since Slytherin himself. I believe that no one can just simply pass it on. Yes, it is a language, but i believe its not a language anyone can learn. its something thats inherited. like English, for some.
Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth since Salazar Slytherin (CoS chapter 17: "...There are strange likenesses between us, after all. Even you must have noticed. Both half-bloods, orphans, raised by Muggles. Probably the only two Parselmouths to come to Hogwarts since the great Slytherin himself..."), at least if we take his word for it (apparently, the Gaunts didn't learn at Hogwarts).
Regarding the inheritance of the language:
As I explained in another thread some time ago, it appears that there is a difference between being a Parselmouth and speaking Parseltongue. If you are a Parselmouth, that means you have a natural ability to speak the language (to the extent that you don't realize you're speaking it, like Harry). Parseltongue is also a language that can be learnt (Dumbledore knew it, Ron managed to speak a word in it), but if you learnt it you would have to actually focus on making the hissing sounds. Similar to the difference between a Metamorphmagus and human transfiguration.
Therefore, I believe the language is inherited, although it is rare. Metamorphmagi are also rare, but Tonks's son inherited it. Similarly, I think the Parselmouth ability runs in families, but if Voldemort was indeed the first Parselmouth in Hogwarts since Slytherin, I think it's safe to assume that all the other Parselmouth blood-lines ran out (in Britain at least).
yes! i agree with you there, and i have no doubt Dumbledore woulda learned it. and yeah, the only reason why Ron knew a word of it was because he heard Harry say that word a lot.
And yes, I do believe that all the Parseltongues have gone extinct.
ravvy wrote:
i dunno guys because in dh chapter 15... rita spoke parseltongue to harry regarding his relations with luna and how ginny would not approve. this was after she caught them making out at the wedding, of course.
i don't ever recall reading that in HP:DH. i've read that book 3 times now (about to start it for the 4th time). i will look for that part in the near future. _________________ Patronus: Lion! (meow)
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