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flamingmonkey923
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Well yeah, the whole thing was messed up, but the solution now isn't just to go counting votes that are unrepresentative of the population. Counting them just makes it worse than it already is.
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GinnyX
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She didn't mean literally count the votes.. like one by one. She meant that every vote should count and it should have been done fairly. You're twisting her words around and that's unfair.
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flamingmonkey923
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The first paragraph seems like she's complaining that only half of the delegates are being awarded for the Michigan and Florida primaries. Just so we're clear, I'm saying that absolutely no delegates should be awarded from any state that only included one candidate. To award delegates based on how many people voted for Hillary Clinton over Hillary Clinton is absurd, and that's the true crime here - not the fact that only half the delegates are being awarded.
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I love how people twist my words.
I'm pissed that we "THE VOTERS" are being punished for something that WE had no control over. Obama took his name off the ballot. Hillary did not. It was not REQUIRED to take their name off. So is it fair that Obama took some of Hillary's votes when he took his name off.
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| Posted: June 1, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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It certainly is, considering he should've recieved delegates from that state too. He took his name off to support the rules of his party, that your state violated. The state was warned it would be punished, he decided not to support the moving up the primary by staying on the ballot. She went against her party and kept herself on it. She shouldn't get any of the delegates, for multiple reasons.
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| Posted: June 1, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I love how people twist my words.
I'm pissed that we "THE VOTERS" are being punished for something that WE had no control over. Obama took his name off the ballot. Hillary did not. It was not REQUIRED to take their name off. So is it fair that Obama took some of Hillary's votes when he took his name off. |
You do realize that Hillary agreed to take her name off the ballot right? All three candidates at the time agreed that they would take their names off the ballots in Michigan and Florida, and that they would not campaign in either State. Clinton agreed to that... then once Obama's name was removed she kept hers there and continued campaigning. To tolerate this kind of behavior is ridiculous, but further to accept any form of delegates from Michigan in particular is criminal. To have one of the two competitor's names on the ballot is textbook voter fraud.
I understand the frustration at having the voters being punished for the State's decision, however the voters are being punished further if they allow any delegates from the State to be seated. Giving the voters no voice is damn well better than telling them who they support.
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AngelPotter20
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You do not understand my frustration.. So dont even try to say that.
Ok here's the deal. there were 4 states that went and wanted to go first in the primary. Michigan, Florida, North Carolina and other state. We asked for a pass to do it. They gave NC their pass and the other state but kept pushing ours back that's why this all happened because they did not want us to get the pass so we could be in the first primary. So in all honesty It was not really our representatives fault it was whoever is in charge of giving those passes out.
I'm just saying that since we are not half people we should get more then half a vote. It's wrong and unfair.. And not giving us any voice at is stupid. THIS IS AMERICA..
Hillary NEVER agreed to take her name off the ballot. Do you live in Michigan? Do you know everything that happens here?
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