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Posts: 1048 · Posted: July 1, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

well i'd think that if he needed to carry a sword he would've enchanted to make it useful.
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^I think most people are agreeing on that. It was special in some way so that is why he carried it.

Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 1, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject:

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So this should be moved to Theories and Speculation since this is all we are talking about.

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Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 1, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject:

Yes, I guess we sorta went away from the discussion of him being wizard of the month but I think it's led to a far better conversation. I've heard discussions about the sword being a horcrux and all of that (which I don't believe). Yet, I've never heard much about why he actually has the sword, which of course is what we are discussing now.

A few people have mentioned several different things and who's to say they aren't all right. There is probably many factors that led to this.

Now, I'd like to discuss more about him actually being a Knight and perhaps a warrior that fought alongside muggles perhaps in one of England's or Europe's wars some 1000 years ago. Perhaps he put a spell on his sword so that he was able to fight "muggle" style and it really wouldn't be noticeable to the naked eye, he would just seem like a great warrior and leader in combat.

I'm currently looking up some wars in that region from the end of the 10th century and the beginning of the 11th century. We will probably never know but I think it could be fun to discuss this, so I'll just put a few up.

Here's the link where I'm getting this info... http://www.warscholar.com/Timeline.html

Here we go...

There is a ton of Viking Raids throughout the world starting in the year 793 to 1017. Some of the countries they raided where Ireland, England, France, and in the North Sea.

There is also the Castilian Civil War from 1065-1073. Norman conquest of England in 1066. William I's Invasion of Scotland in 1072.

Of course there are many, many more and there is no way we are going to be able to point to any war he MAY have helped out with and for whom exactly he might have been helping, because he lived "roughly" a thousand years ago. That could be more than a 1,000 or somewhat less than a 1,000.

I could see him riding into battle, leaving his friend Salazaar behind who didn't understand why he was wanting to help the muggles. He became a Knight perhaps for his bravery in combat and when he had done what he could he came back to the wizarding world and built Hogwarts with his friends.

(Note, I know this is all MAJOR conjuncture on my part, but I'm just trying to start an interesting discussion. So if you don't have any ideas to add, let's not say "no I don't think he did that at all". Of course if someone wants to take the discussion in another direction, you are more than welcome obviously.)
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Well, what was Britain's enemy at this time? Because Hogwarts is in Britain, so I assuming Godric lived in Britain.

Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 1, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject:

I named a few above but since we don't have an actual date of birth we can't know.

Honestly if I had to take a guess I'd say if any of this was possible that he helped England and others against the Viking Raids. That spanned for such a long time and ended in 1017, so it's conceivable if he was alive in 1017 that perhaps he could have helped with the end of the raids???

I'm a little out of my league here because I don't know much about Viking Raids or European War. I'm much more enlightened about American wars.
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Posts: 17117 · Posted: July 1, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject:

would Godric be part of the Norman invaders or one of the original Britains? but wasn't it Hogwarts a history that we're getting the 1000 years from? who knows how old that book is...its probably older. meaning he had to be anglo-saxon? haha I'm not at all sure of that. whoever was in britain first.
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Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 1, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject:

Yeah we need a history buff, the problem is we don't know his exact date of birth and whether Hogwarts is like... say 1,075 years old or maybe 990 years old.

1,000 is too round of a number, if you take my meaning. That just seems like an estimate.

Whoever he might have been fighting though, I could imagine him swinging the sword and it having some sort of charm on it that made other swords repel from it or even some sort of "Expellimas" charm on it so that if another sword came into come take with it, it would automatically disarm the other swordsmen.

This would all look like the feats of a great warrior to the muggles but really he would be using magic.
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I think were missing a big thing here,JK has put up Helga Hufflepuff with her Horcrux Cup,Salazar Slytherin with his Locket Horcrux,and now we get Godric Gryffindor with his Sword?Is that a hint toward the sword being a Horcrux from JK?Besides that has anyone noticed that Godric Gryiffindor has Red hair and Green eyes like someone else we know?JK has said that Harry might be the heir of Gryffindor and I always assumed it would be through his Father,you know his Wizarding blood.But what if Gryffindor was a Half blood and the muggle side of his family descended down to Lily?Or what if He married a muggle and they had a normal kid and the Same scenario?

Posts: 17117 · Posted: July 2, 2007 1:06 am Post subject:

actually JK denied that Harry was the heir of gryffindor. but good point about the horcruxes...
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: July 2, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:

hey i like that idea, maybe he was a knight... yeah.. Sir Godric Gryffindor. being pro-muggle, he would have accepted this muggle system of honoring people. maybe he did something for the muggles, thats why he was knighted. nice one.
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Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 2, 2007 8:39 am Post subject:

As far as the horcrux being the sword, when Voldemort came back to Hogwarts after 10 years to apply for the job, Dumbledore thinks his main goal was to find another object of the founders and turn it into a horcrux.

Dumbledore says he doesn't believe he had enough time in the castle that night to locate that object.

I have heard theories that maybe that Voldemort put a spell on Dumbledore in the office that night, which I'm guessing is where the sword was being housed at the time.

But of course this was approx. in 1955, so perhaps Dumbledore didn't have the sword in his office yet and Voldemort could have made a detour before leaving????
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Posts: 1279 · Posted: July 2, 2007 8:43 am Post subject:

Posts: 28371 · Posted: July 2, 2007 8:44 am Post subject:

but the sword only came out in 1992, when harry used it to kill the basilisk. its been hidden in the hat for centuries, or, in fact, a millenium.
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Posts: 1279 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:01 am Post subject:

Isn't that the same sword in the glass case?
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:05 am Post subject:

yeah that's the same sword indeed.

but that sword in the glass case was taken out of the hat only in 1993 (1993, coz the basilisk duel was 1993). then after harry gave the sword to dumbledore, dumbledore put it in that glass cabinet. so the sword was just passed from harry to dd. never did voldie get a chance to even see it.
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Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:09 am Post subject:

Well there we go, so now we can talk about him decapitating Vikings with the sword 1,000 years ago!!! Twisted Evil

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Posts: 1279 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:11 am Post subject:

Oh, well that makes sense then . . . I am unsucesfully trying to find a loophole here maybe I will think of something, although it almost seems too good to be true/safe
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Posts: 28371 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:21 am Post subject:

hahah yeah riddle maybe... in a village somewhere in england. in honor of him, they named it GODRIC'S HOLLOW!!!
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Posts: 1006 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:22 am Post subject:

HAHAHAAHA, wooo yes, we have cracked the mystery of book 7!

HAHAHA MISS ROWLING!

Now, let's go spam it all over the internet and tell everyone we have the real leaked spoilers! YAYAYAYAYA
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Posts: 1279 · Posted: July 2, 2007 9:26 am Post subject:

^ Deep breath now . . . thats it your okay . . . now count to ten . . . there feel better? lol jk you are bouncin off the walls though
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