Does it strike anyone else how EASY it is for criminals to get away with things in the wizarding world? Voldemort goes and kills his father and paternal grandparents, then plants a false memory in Morfin, so the authorities convict him on his confession. Now, if I were a wizard homicide detective, THE FIRST THING I would consider would be the possibility of a modified memory. But Dumbledore tells Harry that there was no further inquiry into this case. If criminal activity can be gotten away with this easily, why are there not more criminals in the wizarding world? More importantly, why did Rowling create a world in which criminals can so easily (literally) get away with murder?
Investigating a homicide in the wizarding world should be a much more thorough process than it is in the Muggle world, but Rowling makes it so much less. Why is this? Does she want to glorify criminal behavior? IT IS HOMICIDE, IT IS SERIOUS, and they so readily accept a confession without even considering Dark Magic being involved. And don't go telling me that only Voldemort could have gotten away with this, because ANYONE could have learned to modify someone's memory, eliminating witness testimony, as well as learned the magic to plant false memories in order to deflect the conviction. Barty Crouch Jr. gets away with killing his father in Book 4, and all he has to do is cover the body with an Invisibility Cloak. Well pardon my French but WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT? Would homicide investigators from the Ministry REALLY not think that something like that could have happened? Seriously, I really want to know if Rowling seeks to glorify criminal behavior with all these loopholes she creates, enabling them to get away with virtually anything.
Does it strike anyone else how EASY it is for criminals to get away with things in the wizarding world? Voldemort goes and kills his father and paternal grandparents, then plants a false memory in Morfin, so the authorities convict him on his confession. Now, if I were a wizard homicide detective, THE FIRST THING I would consider would be the possibility of a modified memory. But Dumbledore tells Harry that there was no further inquiry into this case. If criminal activity can be gotten away with this easily, why are there not more criminals in the wizarding world? More importantly, why did Rowling create a world in which criminals can so easily (literally) get away with murder?
Usually in these sort of crimes, they would look for family members... but there were no known family members.
Why would they look for a modified memory? The guy was insane, he was the perfect scapegoat.
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Investigating a homicide in the wizarding world should be a much more thorough process than it is in the Muggle world, but Rowling makes it so much less. Why is this? Does she want to glorify criminal behavior? IT IS HOMICIDE, IT IS SERIOUS, and they so readily accept a confession without even considering Dark Magic being involved. And don't go telling me that only Voldemort could have gotten away with this, because ANYONE could have learned to modify someone's memory, eliminating witness testimony, as well as learned the magic to plant false memories in order to deflect the conviction.
A lot of the bad guys got away with criminal activity, such as Lucius. It's not that different from real life.
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Barty Crouch Jr. gets away with killing his father in Book 4, and all he has to do is cover the body with an Invisibility Cloak. Well pardon my French but WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THAT? Would homicide investigators from the Ministry REALLY not think that something like that could have happened? Seriously, I really want to know if Rowling seeks to glorify criminal behavior with all these loopholes she creates, enabling them to get away with virtually anything.
Barty Crouch Jr was convicted for his crimes, the dementor sucked his soul. _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
Umm, maybe because they are INVESTIGATING A HOMICIDE and want proper justice to be served? Seriously, you don't just overlook things because it's convenient, you're not doing your job properly then.
Umm, maybe because they are INVESTIGATING A HOMICIDE and want proper justice to be served? Seriously, you don't just overlook things because it's convenient, you're not doing your job properly then.
They had no reason to not believe that he hadn't done it. They thought they had the case solved. End of story. We can see they were wrong, but only because we know they were wrong. At the time, there was no reason to doubt him.
And you can stop with the caps. No reason to shout, I'm right here. _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
OK, but the fact still remains that Voldemort got away with multiple murders long before his rise to power. And he did it quite easily. Rowling is suggesting that as long as people train and learn the magic necessary, they can get even with their enemies however they please with no legal repercussions. What kind of message is that?
In the Muggle world if you want to be a serial killer, it is much more difficult to cover your tracks, wouldn't you agree? Why does Rowling make it so easy? That's what I want to know.
First of all, readl life homodice investigations aren't like CSI. They are just as difficult to solve as they are in the wizarding world, and many times innocent people are convicted of crims committed by complete nutcases who are still at large.
Next, you have to take many things into consideration. For instance, look at the time period. This happened in what -- the 1950's? Back then, muggle societies were certainly not that advanced are solving crime. Many, many criminals were never found or charged. The wizarding world sort of parallels the muggle world. After all, they both actually do co-exist in the same world. They are secluded from one another, but they are still connected in many ways.
Next, you have to take the government into account. While Voldemort hadn't infiltrated the ministry yet, it's assumed that the ministry was a bit corrupt. I actually think that Morfin's situation was part of Jo's way of showind us that Voldemort's reign was just the pinnacle of long path of corruption and unjust behavior in the government of the wizarding world. This world had been needing change long before Harry and even Voldemort ever existed. It's not as surprising as you think it is considering that fact that virtually every society goes through this same cycle over and over again. Societies make rules that work for the masses. They keep these rules in place for while, and as generation after generation changes these rules sort of go stale. If the government and the laws aren't changing constantly to fit their time, then corruption happens. People who were born into a higher classes are in positions of power will hide behind the rules set into place by their predecessors instead of answering for their actions.
Another thing that you have to take into consideration is that fact that, as Ginny said, Morfin was an easy cop-out. He was freaking insane, and anybody could attest to that. He had no alibi. The ministry had no reason to suspect any one else. It was an open and shut case since there were no obvious hints of foul play from an outside party. Even today in the muggle world, a good set up would be breezed over much like in Morfin's case.
There are probably a million other things to mention, but I'll bet you won't even read this entire post as it is, so I'm not going to waste my time with more arguements. _________________
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I wouldn't say murder was easy to get away with. Dumbledore made it pretty clear as well, why the Ministry was so quick to prosecute Morfin. He had a history of attacking Muggles in the past, namely Tom Riddle Sr. In addition to that, Voldemort had modified his memory and Morfin confessed to it. What reason did the Ministry have to delve any further into investigation? Lastly, Dumbledore also said that it would take an exceptionally skilled wizard to retrieve the actual memory(as he did).
Umm, maybe because they are INVESTIGATING A HOMICIDE and want proper justice to be served? Seriously, you don't just overlook things because it's convenient, you're not doing your job properly then.
the ministry WASN'T doing their job properly. that was made clear in the books lol. anyway...how would you begin testing a memory to see if its false or not? _________________ They say home is where the heart is, so your real home's in your chest. --Captain Hammer
OK, but the fact still remains that Voldemort got away with multiple murders long before his rise to power. And he did it quite easily. Rowling is suggesting that as long as people train and learn the magic necessary, they can get even with their enemies however they please with no legal repercussions. What kind of message is that?
In the Muggle world if you want to be a serial killer, it is much more difficult to cover your tracks, wouldn't you agree? Why does Rowling make it so easy? That's what I want to know.
I think you may be surprised to see how many unsolved murders there are in the US today...
you guys are just so cruel! my lord would never do such a thing... !!! it was all DD!!! DD i tell ya!!!!!!!
he wouldnt hurt a kitten...!
okay now ill be serious
i think bc he was basically impossible to stop, him dying in the end he got his due... plus he was all powerful what was wiz cops supposed to do/? _________________
I don't think JK wanted to go into that too much, just work on the plot. I agree with you however. But, The ministry sucks. So the chances are of them doing anything against voldermort...as pointed out by JK in the books. _________________
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