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Better Man: Severus Snape Or James Potter?
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shewhoshouldnotbenamed
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Severus

and Severus
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure Severus? What about Severus?
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
Are you sure Severus? What about Severus?


hes the better man, for so many reasons

hes brave, and hed do anything for lily, even after death, when he protected her only son, even though he himself everytime he saw harry, saw that aweful potter boy who stole lily away *tears*

and james eventually grew up a little

severus needed lily more than james did

i love severus
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snape is the better man over all
it takes alot to turn from something to do what is right

james was a prick who tortured snape because he was different

better for lily

apparently lily thought that james was
i think that she has the right to chose that man with out question
james
and snape called her a mudblood
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loch Monarch wrote:
snape is the better man over all
it takes alot to turn from something to do what is right

james was a prick who tortured snape because he was different

better for lily

apparently lily thought that james was
i think that she has the right to chose that man with out question
james
and snape called her a mudblood


I dont understand what you said.. Confused
maybe i'm reading it wrong. I am tired. *sigh* i need to go to bed.

I dont think one is better then the other.

James was arrogant when he was young yes. but he was only like 17: a teenager. And we all know what teenagers can be like.

Snape did just as much to James as James did to snape.
Yes he did join up with the death eaters but he was really neglected as a child and just wanted power. and people to like him. (obviously that did not happen because we all know moldybutt is incapable of love or liking someone for that matter).
anyway I think they are both good people in their own way.

plus
I heart Snape.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shewhoshouldnotbenamed wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
Are you sure Severus? What about Severus?


hes the better man, for so many reasons

hes brave, and hed do anything for lily, even after death, when he protected her only son, even though he himself everytime he saw harry, saw that aweful potter boy who stole lily away *tears*

and james eventually grew up a little

severus needed lily more than james did

i love severus


james is brave and would've done anything for lily too

and james was better for lily in my opinion, snape could've never been with lily as long as he had his dark arts obsession

Loch Monarch wrote:
snape is the better man over all
it takes alot to turn from something to do what is right


you mean death eater? he shouldnt have joined in the first place Rolling Eyes

Loch Monarch wrote:
james was a prick who tortured snape because he was different


humilliated rather than tortured i would say, especially that one time in snape's worst memory, but it seems to me as though half of the other times it was snape himself who started the fights

if ur talking about snape's worst memory then ur right, james was a prick and probably was so on several other occassions too

but i think snape's a prick too, he bullies his students, even his 11 year old students might i add, i think thats very low, and the way he treats harry is just wrong, no teacher should be able to get away with that, im impressed by how harry puts up with it, i know i wouldnt

and he can sometimes be just as arrogant as he claims james himself was
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
shewhoshouldnotbenamed wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
Are you sure Severus? What about Severus?


hes the better man, for so many reasons

hes brave, and hed do anything for lily, even after death, when he protected her only son, even though he himself everytime he saw harry, saw that aweful potter boy who stole lily away *tears*

and james eventually grew up a little

severus needed lily more than james did

i love severus


james is brave and would've done anything for lily too

and james was better for lily in my opinion, snape could've never been with lily as long as he had his dark arts obsession

Loch Monarch wrote:
snape is the better man over all
it takes alot to turn from something to do what is right


you mean death eater? he shouldnt have joined in the first place Rolling Eyes

Loch Monarch wrote:
james was a prick who tortured snape because he was different


humilliated rather than tortured i would say, especially that one time in snape's worst memory, but it seems to me as though half of the other times it was snape himself who started the fights

if ur talking about snape's worst memory then ur right, james was a prick and probably was so on several other occassions too

but i think snape's a prick too, he bullies his students, even his 11 year old students might i add, i think thats very low, and the way he treats harry is just wrong, no teacher should be able to get away with that, im impressed by how harry puts up with it, i know i wouldnt

and he can sometimes be just as arrogant as he claims james himself was


that's true.. but.. Severus had to do that to his students to a certain extent. I mean he had to keep up his facade of Death Eater or all the kids of death eaters would of told their parents and Snape would of been dead..

with that said. I dont think he should of done what he did to harry at that extent. Yes he can hate Harry and all but what he did was on the border of child abuse all because he hated harrys father. He just could not get over that fact that Harry is not and never will be James.
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol i dont know about the facade, whatever u say i dont think snape really regretted the way he acted in class, maybe a little was for show but i think he mostly didnt care at all
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think he did to a point.

Look how he reacted to Harry in the Shrieking shack. (book 7)
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you mean? he wanted to see harry's eyes because they were like lily's and he had to give him the memories because dumbledore had instructed him to do so, i doubt that he would waste his last precious seconds in insulting him, i like to think he was smarter than that
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is "wizard college" I think Snape would have been better off there, as opposed to teaching young children. He really obviously can't relate to kids, on top of having no social filter.
But I can understand his strictness to an extent. Some of the things he had his students doing in potions could conceivably have been dangerous if done wrong. I can understand him being frustrated and angry when someone screws up, if they could have potentially hurt themselves and others.
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took it as he wanted to try and make things right between him and Harry. I mean snape was in love with lily and harry was her son.

I dont know. I'm going to reread that part again.
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ i didnt see it that way, but i dont think snape died hating him

Bianca St. Claire wrote:
If there is "wizard college" I think Snape would have been better off there, as opposed to teaching young children. He really obviously can't relate to kids, on top of having no social filter.
But I can understand his strictness to an extent. Some of the things he had his students doing in potions could conceivably have been dangerous if done wrong. I can understand him being frustrated and angry when someone screws up, if they could have potentially hurt themselves and others.


i dont think so, its not just about harry, i also hated how he treated neville, that was awful and very mean of snape
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neville was what I was referring to there, really. I can understand him why he gets angry. I'm not saying he approaches the situation the way he should, just that I see his point. He sees this kid who, in his mind, isn't following the directions and makes mistakes that could cause injury to himself or other students and he gets angry. (Even though, obviously, half the problem is that Snape and his personality make Neville even more nervous, and he screws up even more)
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bianca St. Claire wrote:
Neville was what I was referring to there, really. I can understand him why he gets angry. I'm not saying he approaches the situation the way he should, just that I see his point. He sees this kid who, in his mind, isn't following the directions and makes mistakes that could cause injury to himself or other students and he gets angry. (Even though, obviously, half the problem is that Snape and his personality make Neville even more nervous, and he screws up even more)


Neville does try really hard, though. It's not like he doesn't pay attention on purpose. He forgets stuff and makes mistakes. He's only human. Plus, I personally have a theory that he has been hit with a memory charm one too many times, and that's why his memory is all wonky, but that's another story. Back to my origianl point, the way Snape handled a student like Neville is absurd, Snape is way off in the way he treats Neville, not only as a student, but as a person. Also, Crabbe and Goyle's potions are never much better than Neville's, but we never see Snape scold Crabbe or Goyle the way he does to Neville.
Another thing, what he said to Hermione in GoF is inexcusable. It was mean and hurtful and completely uncalled for. Lily would have dumped him as a friend in a second if she knew he was talking that way to little girls.
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Snape needed was some of this....

http://stillanightowl.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/sarcasma.jpg
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bianca St. Claire wrote:
All Snape needed was some of this....

http://stillanightowl.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/sarcasma.jpg


I think his comment to Hermione was more "mean" than "sarcastic." It made her cry for, goodness sakes. All those horrible things Pansy has said to her... and those horrible things Rita said to her and wrote about her... she handled that just fine. But there she was cursed in the face and Snape steps in and tells her that her teeth are always big... his sarcasm wasn't funny, it was mean and cruel.
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sorry but i agree with ginny, you can tell by kilometers away that he uses intimidation and fear as methods of teaching, i dont find it pedagogical at all, really low to be honest, anyone who does that has obviously several unresolved issues
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PostPosted: May 8, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing I wasn't defending his teaching style - I can just understand why Neville screwing up makes him angry. I did point out that I thought Snape made it even worse by making him more nervous.
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PostPosted: May 8, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well then he obviously shouldnt have been a teacher cause he has no patience Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: May 8, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slythern is better
threrfore
SNAPE IS THE BETTER MAN
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PostPosted: May 8, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loch Monarch wrote:
slythern is better
threrfore
SNAPE IS THE BETTER MAN


slytherin is better than what? you didnt say

in case u meant gryffindor, i strongly disagree and it still doesnt have to do much with who of the two is better since, even though i think most of the gryffindors are better persons than the slytherins, there can be exceptions such as that some of them are better than peter pettigrew
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all gryffendors are better than pettegrew
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