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Chosen7one
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Did Hermione know deep down that.... Reply with quote

Did Hermione know deep down that....
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That harry was a horcrux? Like if u look she kept on telling harry to close his mind and she already looked up on horcruxes and knew what they held. So maybe thats why she told him to close his mind bc she knew the truth and didnt want to believe it???

Just a thought? What u think???
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no way to look up horcruxes, any information on them is in the Headmaster's office or the Ministry of Magic (I don't remember which). Unless, of course, she asked Dumbledore about them.. but I really doubt that would happen.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, i am positive that she didnt know, it is a highly improbable thing to happen, almost impossible to predict, so i dont think she could've known

besides, as our poor gin has repeated about 100 times, he wasnt really a horcrux
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:


besides, as our poor gin has repeated about 100 times, he wasnt really a horcrux


hehe, thank you, bery! *huggles bery*



I think Hermione wanted Harry to close his mind because that was what DD wanted Harry to do. His inability to close his mind was what sent them all on that wild goose chase to the Ministry in OotP to save Sirius. I think Hermione was scared something like that would happen again.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's no way to look up horcruxes, any information on them is in the Headmaster's office or the Ministry of Magic (I don't remember which). Unless, of course, she asked Dumbledore about them.. but I really doubt that would happen.


actually hermione if u remember had info n horcruxes that she got from DD office after the funeral, She accioed them.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
bery26 wrote:


besides, as our poor gin has repeated about 100 times, he wasnt really a horcrux


hehe, thank you, bery! *huggles bery*



I think Hermione wanted Harry to close his mind because that was what DD wanted Harry to do. His inability to close his mind was what sent them all on that wild goose chase to the Ministry in OotP to save Sirius. I think Hermione was scared something like that would happen again.


lol ur welcome sweetie <3

but in the end it proved to be very useful to be able to see voldy's mind as we see in DH and harry sort of did learn a bit of occlumency, at least enough as to make his mind stay in the moment when he needed it
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nagem0 wrote:
There's no way to look up horcruxes, any information on them is in the Headmaster's office or the Ministry of Magic (I don't remember which). Unless, of course, she asked Dumbledore about them.. but I really doubt that would happen.


actually hermione if u remember had info n horcruxes that she got from DD office after the funeral, She accioed them.


Oh, that's right. It was in DH. I only read that book once Sad
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:

lol ur welcome sweetie <3

but in the end it proved to be very useful to be able to see voldy's mind as we see in DH and harry sort of did learn a bit of occlumency, at least enough as to make his mind stay in the moment when he needed it


Yeah, it did turn out to be useful... but Harry also had to learn to control it a bit. So it all worked out... sort of, lol.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope she told him to close his mind for two reasons
A. because she knew that voldemort could see into his mind <5>
B. she thought that it may stop the scar from hurting
may you are right but i dont think so
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She may of had the idea after she knew what they were. When they were looking fro them..
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, here's the thing. Hermione was a completely logical creature. The rule for horcruxes is that they have to be intentionally made. Hermione's logic would have lead her completely off the track that Harry could possibley be a horcrux. Why assume that Harry's a horcrux when Voldemort's sould intention was to destroy him and the point in a horcrux is to be a place of safe-keeping for a bit of soul?
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PostPosted: May 8, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Voldy didn't know Harry was a Horcrux, Hermione surely didn't either.
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PostPosted: May 18, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
no, i am positive that she didnt know, it is a highly improbable thing to happen, almost impossible to predict, so i dont think she could've known

besides, as our poor gin has repeated about 100 times, he wasnt really a horcrux


wait.. harry was a horcrux. it says so in the deathly hallows.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ParryHotter wrote:
bery26 wrote:
no, i am positive that she didnt know, it is a highly improbable thing to happen, almost impossible to predict, so i dont think she could've known

besides, as our poor gin has repeated about 100 times, he wasnt really a horcrux


wait.. harry was a horcrux. it says so in the deathly hallows.


Technically he wasn't... Here is the interview from Pottercast, courtesy of The Leaky Cauldron...

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MA: After we got back from Carnegie Hall, we brought back your message of "Harry is kind of not really a Horcrux." (SU: Oh, yeah.) And I don't want to dwell too long on Horcruxes, but I'd love to hear you talking about how he is or isn't, or wasn't.

JKR: Well, I'll tell you- do you know what? This will not end the discussion. (MA: Yeah.) (laughs) I know that, and you know that, but here is the thing: for convenience, I had Dumbledore say to Harry, "You were the Horcrux he never meant to make," but I think, by definition, a Horcrux has to be made intentionally. So because Voldemort never went through the grotesque process that I imagine creates a Horcrux with Harry, (SU: Mm-hm.) it was just that he had destabilized his soul so much that it split when he was hit by the backfiring curse. And so this part of it flies off, and attaches to the only living thing in the room. A part of it flees in the very-close-to-death limbo state that Voldemort then goes on and exists in. I suppose it's very close to being a Horcrux, but Harry did not become an evil object. He didn't have curses upon him that the other Horcruxes had. He himself was not contaminated by carrying this bit of parasitic soul. The only time he ever felt it stirring and moving was in Order of the Phoenix, when he himself goes through a very dark time. And there's a moment where he's looking at Dumbledore, and he feels something rear like a snake inside him, and of course, at those times, it's because the piece of soul inside him is feeding off his emotions. He's going through a dark time, and that piece of soul is enjoying it, and making its presence felt, but he doesn't know what he's feeling, of course. Also, I always imagine that the Sorting Hat detected the presence of that piece of soul (JN: Yeah!) when Harry first tried it on, because it's strongly tempted to put him in Slytherin. So that's how I see it. (JN: Wow.) Now, I know that won't end the debate, but I do think that the strict definition of "Horcrux," once I write the Scottish Book, will have to be given, (SU: Yeah.) (JN: Yes.) and that the definition will be that a receptacle is prepared by Dark Magic to become the receptacle of a fragmented piece of soul, and that that piece of soul was deliberately detached from the master soul to act as a future safeguard, or anchor, to life, and a safeguard against death. So that doesn't really clear anything up. Well, I think it- (JN: It does quite a bit.) It at least states what I believe,(MA laughs) but I don't think it's necessarily going to convince people who have a strong feeling one way or the other on the matter. You know what? That's been the case with most of Harry Potter. (JN laughs) I give my explanation, and it just fuels more debate.


http://pottercast.the-leaky-cauldron.org/jkrowling
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PostPosted: June 9, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nagem0 wrote:
There's no way to look up horcruxes, any information on them is in the Headmaster's office or the Ministry of Magic (I don't remember which). Unless, of course, she asked Dumbledore about them.. but I really doubt that would happen.


she took the books from Dumbledore office after he died so she could look horcurexs up
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PostPosted: June 9, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If Voldy didn't know Harry was a Horcrux, Hermione surely didn't either.


I agree.
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PostPosted: June 15, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could call it "womans intuition"?
Anyway, we know Hermione's usually right...
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