Harry Potter Forums

Posts: 625 · Joined: May 3, 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 625

Possibly anyone could do it, but only a very powerful person could kill with it. If, lets say, Ginny's little 2 year old sister who doesn't exist said it, it wouldn't do anything.
_________________
Huge Harry/Ginny fan!
Ginny For The Win!

Posts: 111 · Joined: May 4, 2008 Location: PA Posts: 111

i dont thinks its skill that make up the unforgivable curses but of "will" to do so like how Bleatrix Mentions in Order of the Phoenix and how harry rementions it in deathly hallows. Lamon Terms: If u have the will to kill, you can do it. As showed by Goyle and Crabbe
_________________
To the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure

-Dumbledore

Posts: 41 · Joined: Apr 30, 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 41

I think that its something like the other unforgivable curses, like bellatrix explained to harry, you have to really mean it for it to take affect.

Posts: 23211 · Posted: May 6, 2008 6:56 am Post subject:

I think it's a sort-of combination of the two... magical ability and a want to do harm, in this case killing. It's not a secret that Crabbe and Goyle suck at Potions, but we really don't know much about them besides that. I wonder if they are just like other students who excel in one area and fall apart in other areas. Some students are great at math, but are not so good at... gym, for instance while other students love gym and sports, but when it comes to classes, they do not excel in some areas. Some people love reading and work hard at English, but fall apart when it comes to math. I think Crabbe and Goyle are like those students... they found an area of studies that interest them and worked hard to excel in that area.
_________________

^courtesy of Arabella

Posts: 1897 · Posted: May 6, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject:

Yes they would have to be
yet crabbe had been learning stuff like that all year in Dark Arts

Posts: 94 · Joined: May 2, 2008 Location: TheNetherlands Posts: 94

I actually think the Avada kedavra makes it too easy to kill. One thing thought, the average teenager thing with Crabb. That it true, that is werid, but he didnt kill anyone with it. Maybe they would only have gotten a nosebleed of it.
_________________
My signature is entirly privet and will not be shown to anyone without permission.
Roses are Red
Violets are blue
I like Harry Potter
How about you?
(because I do not listen rap music Razz

)

Posts: 23211 · Posted: May 7, 2008 9:17 am Post subject:

Posts: 10 · Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Posts: 10

I don't think it's really the thing about killing that person I think it's more of wanting to kill somebody. Remember in HBP one of the DEs (I think it was either Dolohov or Rowle, but I"m not sure) was casting the Killing Curse everywhere he could reach and ended up hitting another DE. Now I seriously doubt he wanted one of his allies dead while in the middle of a war, but he did want to kill somebody to protect himself and just happened to hit a friend.
_________________
You chase your dreams not realizing the nightmare they lead to.

Posts: 9 · Joined: Jul 3, 2008 Posts: 9

[quote="Flaming Fury"]I don't think it's really the thing about killing that person I think it's more of wanting to kill somebody. Remember in HBP one of the DEs (I think it was either Dolohov or Rowle, but I"m not sure) was casting the Killing Curse everywhere he could reach and ended up hitting another DE. Now I seriously doubt he wanted one of his allies dead while in the middle of a war, but he did want to kill somebody to protect himself and just happened to hit a friend.[/quote]

i thought taht it was you could only cast the spell if you truely meant to kill the person.

Posts: 10 · Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Posts: 10

I don't think that could be it cause then how could that one Death Eater kill the other one. I think it's more of wanting to perform the act of murder.
_________________
You chase your dreams not realizing the nightmare they lead to.

Posts: 9 · Joined: Jul 3, 2008 Posts: 9

[quote="Flaming Fury"]I don't think that could be it cause then how could that one Death Eater kill the other one. I think it's more of wanting to perform the act of murder.[/quote]

well thats what i meant that you really want to kill the person

Posts: 10 · Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Posts: 10

Sorry I thought you meant kill THAT person, like I want to kill Jon Smith. I meant you have to want to kill whoever gets hit by the curse.
_________________
You chase your dreams not realizing the nightmare they lead to.

Posts: 94 · Joined: May 2, 2008 Location: TheNetherlands Posts: 94

Posts: 94 · Joined: May 2, 2008 Location: TheNetherlands Posts: 94

Posts: 94 · Joined: May 2, 2008 Location: TheNetherlands Posts: 94

Posts: 1217 · Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Location: Higher Realm Posts: 1217

Can all spells be casted without an incantation? Are there varying degrees of difficulty for different spells when trying to do so? If so, can the killing curse be cast without speaking? I feel like Voldy and some others may have done this...if this is so, do you need to particularly powerful/gifted/talented to be able?
_________________

Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.

Posts: 7929 · Joined: Jul 25, 2007 Location: Sam's Closet Posts: 7929

Posts: 4 · Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Posts: 4

Posts: 1217 · Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Location: Higher Realm Posts: 1217

Haha, that's very cool. Not to mention that doing silently enables you to basically spam it like hell.
_________________

Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.

Posts: 20 · Joined: Jul 12, 2008 Location: Canada. Posts: 20

I think that to cast the curse; you have to mean it, want it more than anything.

And the second poster is probably right, Barty was probably wrong.
_________________
I support ; Dean/Ginny, Lucius/Ginny , Lucius/Narcissa, Blaise/Pansy, Draco/Astoria, Bill/Fluer, Teddy/Victoire.

Posts: 113 · Joined: Jul 11, 2008 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 113

No, I think that ol' Barty was right in his earlier remark. It should seem prudent that to take one's life, you have to have an exceptionally powerful grasp of magic and be able to capably wield it in that particular manner.

If any jerk with a wand could kill someone, then that would horribly undermine the entire wizarding community. Truthfully, we've only seen exceptionally powerful wizards kill with it. Others have tried, o' course, but in the middle of a life-or-death duel, why do they still brandish curses and hexes such as the Stunning Curse and Body Bind Curse? If Avada Kedavra was a one-and-done, and unblockable, why waste the time if you're not in a pacified duel?

So, by my reckoning, you have to be a top-end wizard/witch to kill someone with it. The fact that you can utter the words and cause physical damage means there's bodily repercussions proportional to the caster's prowess. That means, of course, that some of the spells dodged (Death Eaters aiming curses at Harry, Crabbe getting tough in the RoR) might not have actually killed like they were inteded.

Posts: 10 · Joined: Jul 4, 2008 Posts: 10

Harry Potter Forums

Harry Potter Community and Bulletin Boards