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did lavender brown survived?
i think so...
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: what on earth happened to LAVENDER?? Reply with quote

i know that she was almost got attacked by fenrir in the battle of hogwarts but i was wondering if she died or survived??
if she survived, then what happened to her? what's her job? did she married someone? did she have kids? Question
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to think she survived and went on to live a good life. Maybe she grew up and married a good man, someone who appreciated her and who she deserved.
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never had any doubt that she survived. It would have been mentioned that she was among the dead when Harry was looking over those who were dead.
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I never had any doubt that she survived. It would have been mentioned that she was among the dead when Harry was looking over those who were dead.


Not necassarily. Harry said about 50 people died. JKR wasn't about to list them all. I personally think she survived, but I'm just saying, we don't really know who else lived or died.
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zengrenouille wrote:
I never had any doubt that she survived. It would have been mentioned that she was among the dead when Harry was looking over those who were dead.


Not necassarily. Harry said about 50 people died. JKR wasn't about to list them all. I personally think she survived, but I'm just saying, we don't really know who else lived or died.


It mentioned the people whom he recognized by name, though.
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PostPosted: April 27, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we'll find out when JKR publishes the encyclopedia.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
I never had any doubt that she survived. It would have been mentioned that she was among the dead when Harry was looking over those who were dead.


Not necassarily. Harry said about 50 people died. JKR wasn't about to list them all. I personally think she survived, but I'm just saying, we don't really know who else lived or died.


It mentioned the people whom he recognized by name, though.


Not really. Tonks and Lupin were just laying by Fred and he happened past Oliver and Neville as they were carrying Colin.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
I never had any doubt that she survived. It would have been mentioned that she was among the dead when Harry was looking over those who were dead.


Not necassarily. Harry said about 50 people died. JKR wasn't about to list them all. I personally think she survived, but I'm just saying, we don't really know who else lived or died.


It mentioned the people whom he recognized by name, though.


Not really. Tonks and Lupin were just laying by Fred and he happened past Oliver and Neville as they were carrying Colin.


Jo was careful to mention the people who Harry knew who were dead. She would have made it so that Harry noticed Lavendar if she had died. It's just what Jo does.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jo was careful to mention the people who Harry knew who were dead. She would have made it so that Harry noticed Lavendar if she had died. It's just what Jo does.


We see what Harry sees. There is a chance Harry hasn't seen the death list yet. I find it silly to assume he didn't know any of those 50 people or so. I doubt we should assume that every other single person we have met in those 7 books are still alive just because Harry didn't see them dead. JKR said that the epilogue was originally longer... perhaps she did put it in and it was taken out. Or maybe she decided that, along with a few other details, she decided to leave some stuff out on purpose.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.


I'm not saying I think Lavander is dead... but I do think it's possible she'd have offed someone without mentioning it to us. There was plenty of stuff she didn't mention to us in the story, including the epilogue, I don't see what the difference is.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.


I'm not saying I think Lavander is dead... but I do think it's possible she'd have offed someone without mentioning it to us. There was plenty of stuff she didn't mention to us in the story, including the epilogue, I don't see what the difference is.


The difference is that this ia a life and death situation! The deaths of the known characters are too important to leave out.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.


I'm not saying I think Lavander is dead... but I do think it's possible she'd have offed someone without mentioning it to us. There was plenty of stuff she didn't mention to us in the story, including the epilogue, I don't see what the difference is.


The difference is that this ia a life and death situation! The deaths of the known characters are too important to leave out.

Unless she left them out for a reason. Or they got edited out because it didn't fit into the storyline. It wouldn't have flowed well if Harry had listed, like, 10 names and then said, about 40 more classmates. Again, I'm not saying that I think Lavander is dead... but I think it would be completely unplausable that Harry didn't know any of those 50 student's names.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.


I'm not saying I think Lavander is dead... but I do think it's possible she'd have offed someone without mentioning it to us. There was plenty of stuff she didn't mention to us in the story, including the epilogue, I don't see what the difference is.


The difference is that this ia a life and death situation! The deaths of the known characters are too important to leave out.

Unless she left them out for a reason. Or they got edited out because it didn't fit into the storyline. It wouldn't have flowed well if Harry had listed, like, 10 names and then said, about 40 more classmates. Again, I'm not saying that I think Lavander is dead... but I think it would be completely unplausable that Harry didn't know any of those 50 student's names.


I'm sure that there were plenty of people who Harry knew, but none of them develeoped characters like Lavendar.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm sure that there were plenty of people who Harry knew, but none of them develeoped characters like Lavendar.


Lavander wasn't as developed as some other characters, and we don't know if they lived or died, either. Harry made a point to notice some characters while he walked through the battlezone and later on while he walked through the Great Hall after Luna created that distraction for him. I'm nto saying that just because he didnt' mention them they're dead... but we also can't assume they're alive. I would never put Lavander on the same level as a developed character like Lupin or Fred and it seems like you do. I agree that she's developed, but so were many charcters, JKR did a good job with taking even the most minor character and giving them a heart and soul. But she didn't list every single death.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
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I'm sure that there were plenty of people who Harry knew, but none of them develeoped characters like Lavendar.


Lavander wasn't as developed as some other characters, and we don't know if they lived or died, either. Harry made a point to notice some characters while he walked through the battlezone and later on while he walked through the Great Hall after Luna created that distraction for him. I'm nto saying that just because he didnt' mention them they're dead... but we also can't assume they're alive. I would never put Lavander on the same level as a developed character like Lupin or Fred and it seems like you do. I agree that she's developed, but so were many charcters, JKR did a good job with taking even the most minor character and giving them a heart and soul. But she didn't list every single death.


Lavendar is developed enough that Jo wouldn't kill her off without mentioning it, no matter what you say. Jo just wouldn't do that.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if lavender was important enough to go out with/snog ron for quite a while in HBP then i would think that JKR would most likely mention her death. you would atleast think that ron would want to know what happened to his ex - i'm sure harry cares about what happened to cho. it dosen't sound like JKR would kill a character like lavender without telling us.

and Ginny, yes lavender was a secondary character but so was colin creevy and he got mentioned in the dead.
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GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
i agree with zenny

lavander is a secondary character but one that appears on all the 7 books, im sure her death would've been mentioned



exactly, it's not as if she's some blonde Hufflepuff who Harry remembered from his third year transfirgurations class. This is Lavendar -- a real character that Jo developed and people have come to know and like -- or dislike. Jo wouldn't have offed her without some mention of it.


I'm not saying I think Lavander is dead... but I do think it's possible she'd have offed someone without mentioning it to us. There was plenty of stuff she didn't mention to us in the story, including the epilogue, I don't see what the difference is.


im not saying that she would've been mentioned in the epilogue, but her death would've been mentioned for sure, im a 99% certain of it

i mean she dated one of the three main characters! that should definitely earn her a death mention lol
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if lavender was important enough to go out with/snog ron for quite a while in HBP then i would think that JKR would most likely mention her death. you would atleast think that ron would want to know what happened to his ex - i'm sure harry cares about what happened to cho. it dosen't sound like JKR would kill a character like lavender without telling us.

and Ginny, yes lavender was a secondary character but so was colin creevy and he got mentioned in the dead.


Hary randomly passed Colin. His death was worked into the storyline to represent the young soldiers who die in real wars.
Again, I'm not sayong I think Lavender was killed, but I wouldn't be surpised if another character was.
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PostPosted: April 28, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
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if lavender was important enough to go out with/snog ron for quite a while in HBP then i would think that JKR would most likely mention her death. you would atleast think that ron would want to know what happened to his ex - i'm sure harry cares about what happened to cho. it dosen't sound like JKR would kill a character like lavender without telling us.

and Ginny, yes lavender was a secondary character but so was colin creevy and he got mentioned in the dead.


Hary randomly passed Colin. His death was worked into the storyline to represent the young soldiers who die in real wars.
Again, I'm not sayong I think Lavender was killed, but I wouldn't be surpised if another character was.


ANy character that is pretty well-known would have been put into the known death toll much like Collin was.
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