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vandermorph
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 Posted: April 18, 2008 6:07 am Post subject: Truth Serum or Occulmency |
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Why didnt Umbridge just use the Occulmency thing on harry when she could not use the truth serum? It would have been better than usin the cruciactus curse
Im not sure if the word is Occulmency but it sounds right and i havent read the book for a while.
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lol its occlumency 
and she doesnt sound like a very talented witch, so she probably just couldnt do it
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I think you are referring to legilimens. Legilimens is when a person can tell what another is thinking. Occlumency is used to defend a person's mind from ligilimens. Legilimens is very difficult to pull off. I doubt that Umbridge could do it.
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I don`t think someone like Umbridge would be good at it. 
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Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room
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| Posted: April 18, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room |
Maybe she didn't know that he was skilled in legilimens.
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| Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room |
Like others have said, she probably didn't know how. I get the impression that not many wizards and witches know how. She might not have known he was skilled at legilimens, like Zen said.
He wouldn't have given her a truthful answer, anyway. Not that she would have known that, anyway.
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| Posted: April 19, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room |
Like others have said, she probably didn't know how. I get the impression that not many wizards and witches know how. She might not have known he was skilled at legilimens, like Zen said.
He wouldn't have given her a truthful answer, anyway. Not that she would have known that, anyway. |
I agree totally. I don't think many witches and wizards could preform legilimency. If very few people could, Umbridge of all wouldn't be able too.
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| Posted: April 20, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| vandermorph wrote: |
| Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room |
Many people didn`t knew he was such a great Legilimens. Especially Umbridge. DD knew, Harry did... Who else? Malfoy. Even voldemort didn`t know that, did he?
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| Posted: April 25, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| I think that she isn't possible to do occlumece... |
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| I don't even know if she knows how to do Legilimens. |
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| I don't even know if she knows how to do Legilimens. |
i doubt very much she does, otherwise she wouldnt have done it to harry the day she stepped on hogwarts
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There is no doubt in my mind that she doesn't know legilimancy. As bery said, she'd have used it since day one.
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| I think you're right, she wasn't a very talented witch and couldn't do it. Maybe she also thought that Harry was taught to protect himself against Legilimens. (which is kinda true^^) |
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legemnimens, i doubt that if she could do it, if she could i doubt it, if it would be anygood
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she just couldnt do legilimens and she's not very talented at all.
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I don't think Snape would tell her about his skill to begin with. She would just abuse it. Plus, It needed to be kept secret for Harry's sake.
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| Ginevra Malenki wrote: |
| GinnyX wrote: |
| vandermorph wrote: |
| Still she could have gotten snape to do it instead of using the Truth Serum... He was right there in the room |
Like others have said, she probably didn't know how. I get the impression that not many wizards and witches know how. She might not have known he was skilled at legilimens, like Zen said.
He wouldn't have given her a truthful answer, anyway. Not that she would have known that, anyway. |
I agree totally. I don't think many witches and wizards could preform legilimency. If very few people could, Umbridge of all wouldn't be able too. |
I don't know dude, Umbridge pwned the centaur  |
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i think umbridge dont know legilimens.
that my opinion. |
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