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snitch_seeker2007
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why again did BCJ want to use the polyjuice potion to be like Mad-eye? i just pulled a blank
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So he could infiltrate into Dumbledore's inner circle...become someone Dumbledore trusts so he could get close to Harry.
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What Spickley said.
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| Posted: March 21, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| spickley wrote: |
| So he could infiltrate into Dumbledore's inner circle...become someone Dumbledore trusts so he could get close to Harry. |
And dont forget so he could rig the Tournament and get in Voldemorts good graces again
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^Right-o. He seems scary...
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| Posted: April 22, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: random |
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This is slightly abstract question, but does anybody have any theories as to what house Barty was in?
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| Posted: April 22, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Re: random |
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| This is slightly abstract question, but does anybody have any theories as to what house Barty was in? |
Which Barty? Senior or Junior? Or both?
I would think.... Slytherin for Barty Crouch Jr... maybe that's how he fell in with the wrong crowd.... and Ravenclaw for Barty Crouch Senior.
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| Posted: April 22, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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^ that seems about right
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| why again did BCJ want to use the polyjuice potion to be like Mad-eye? i just pulled a blank |
he wanted to be in the school during the triwizard tournament to help harry enter it and win, and change the Cup into a portkey that would lead harry to the graveyard where voldy was
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| Posted: April 22, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: random |
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| GinnyX wrote: |
| imateapot wrote: |
| This is slightly abstract question, but does anybody have any theories as to what house Barty was in? |
Which Barty? Senior or Junior? Or both?
I would think.... Slytherin for Barty Crouch Jr... maybe that's how he fell in with the wrong crowd.... and Ravenclaw for Barty Crouch Senior. |
I actually think that he would have been in whatever house his mom was in. It seems likely for him. He could still fallen into the wrong crowd just as easily, especially without the influence of his mother around. Wormtail managed it.
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| Posted: April 22, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: random |
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| zengrenouille wrote: |
| GinnyX wrote: |
| imateapot wrote: |
| This is slightly abstract question, but does anybody have any theories as to what house Barty was in? |
Which Barty? Senior or Junior? Or both?
I would think.... Slytherin for Barty Crouch Jr... maybe that's how he fell in with the wrong crowd.... and Ravenclaw for Barty Crouch Senior. |
I actually think that he would have been in whatever house his mom was in. It seems likely for him. He could still fallen into the wrong crowd just as easily, especially without the influence of his mother around. Wormtail managed it. |
Was his mom and Slytherin? lol, I don't know. I'm not sure if he would be a Slytherin anymore because I thought about it and Barty Crouch Sr hated the DE and Slytherin was filled with them.... so maybe his son wouldn't have been in that house... I dunno.
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^ Actually, I could see hi mother being in any house other than Slytherin. She was very kind, her plan to get crouch out of Azkaban was rather intelligent and brave. I would actually assume that she was in Ravenclaw, though. IF she were brave, then she would have stood up to her husband for all of those years when he was putting his son down. She obviously loved her son very much.
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| Posted: April 23, 2008 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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i agree with you zenny, barty's mum seemed ok
of course she could've been a bit like narcissa malfoy lol
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i agree with you zenny, barty's mum seemed ok
of course she could've been a bit like narcissa malfoy lol |
I don't think that she was, mostly because Barty was nothing like Lucius. They are two differene types of women who had to deal with two different types of men. The only thing that the two men had in common is that they were very passionate about their plights.
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yeah well but as neither barty sr or barty jr are very nice ppl, there's no reason to believe mrs crouch was so
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| yeah well but as neither barty sr or barty jr are very nice ppl, there's no reason to believe mrs crouch was so |
Barty was good at heart, though. He really thought that he was doing the right thing.
Lucius was a bad seed, altogether,
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lucius is definitely worse, but ur picking a bad example, lucius is an asesine, so to my eyes he's pretty much worse than most ppl on earth lol
and i dont like barty, he sounds so coldhearted, i dont like that kind of ppl
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lucius is definitely worse, but ur picking a bad example, lucius is an asesine, so to my eyes he's pretty much worse than most ppl on earth lol
and i dont like barty, he sounds so coldhearted, i dont like that kind of ppl |
I didn't choose that example. You did when you compared Mrs. Crouch and Narcissa.
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yeah, the comparison was narcissa/mrs crouch, narcissa isnt an asesine is she?
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| Posted: April 25, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, the comparison was narcissa/mrs crouch, narcissa isnt an asesine is she? |
As DD said, it is our choices that define us. The only thing that we have to compare Narcissa and Mrs. Crouch is the husbands that they chose. We don't have enough knowledge of Mrs. Crouch to to much else. Mrs. Crouch married a man who had an admirable goal, Narcissa married a death eater.
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| Posted: April 25, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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ok here's the thing, you said the most probable thing was that mrs crouch wasnt a slytherin at all, i agreed with you but acknowledged the possibility of her being like narcissa, who was in slytherin
narcissa married a killer, while mrs crouch married a mad who was capable of using the most nasty means to achieve his "admirable goal", we both know thats not a good quality
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ok here's the thing, you said the most probable thing was that mrs crouch wasnt a slytherin at all, i agreed with you but acknowledged the possibility of her being like narcissa, who was in slytherin
narcissa married a killer, while mrs crouch married a mad who was capable of using the most nasty means to achieve his "admirable goal", we both know thats not a good quality |
Crouch's heart was always in the right place, though. I believe that when his wife married him, she didn't know that he would make such poor choices.
Narcissa was not deceived when she was married, though. She married a freaking death eater, knowing what he was! She didn't know that having a child would change her whole outlook on life.
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I so don't think Junior was a Slytherin. A Slytherin would be so pathetically obvious and cliche for a future Death Eater. And both of his parents most likely were in any House but, so I see no reason why Junior should have been in Slytherin anyways.
I favor for Gryffendor for Junior (because it's my favorite house and for once it would be fun to have a Death Eater from the House of Gryffendor.) It's all about the choices that we make yes, but a wizard is sorted to a house - his mind is analyzed at so young age - a lot can happen afterwards to push that little mind closer to something else.
I like to think Barty Jr. was a Gryffendor. The book version asw well. My version of him surely was, but he's a bit alternate universe in the end (meaning after the end of Gof.)
Ravenclaw though, might work better for teh canon version of Junior.
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Would this be the first Death Eater we know of that hasn't been a Slytherin student ? I don't recall there being any others.
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| ThE_DaRk_MaRk wrote: |
| Would this be the first Death Eater we know of that hasn't been a Slytherin student ? I don't recall there being any others. |
JKR had said in an interview that chilren of Death eaters were in other Houses... And we know Wormtail was in Gryffindor. We don't know what house Barty Jr. was in for sure, actually.
If there were children in otehr houses, there could have been DE's, though. I think the fact that readers always assume that Slytherin=DE is very interesting... since it made for a nice set-up when we find out that Snape was a double (triple?) agent. Same with Regulus. When he found out the lengths Voldemort was going, he tried to help the only way he knew how. Not all teh Slytherins were terribly evil, nor were all of tehm DE's, such as Slughorn. But the fact that us readers automatcially point fingers plays well into JKR's plans for Snape, Regulus, and the prejudicey metaphors nicely.
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