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WhitneyM:)
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PostPosted: January 7, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I re-read through the posts and I found it and even what i stated, was already said. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: January 27, 2007 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermoine is quite like Lily, don't you think?
Maybe this is why he also dislikes her but then again he dislikes everyone. Neutral

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PostPosted: February 10, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree about the similarity between Hermione and Lily!
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PostPosted: February 20, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Snape did have a soft spot for Lily and she knew this and this is why she defended him when James and Sirius picked on him. However, i think Lily did this out of sympathy and never really had any feelings of the romantic kind for Snape. This may be why he reacted the way he did by calling her a Mudblood because Lily had made it clear that she didn't like him that way.

Or it's possible that the notes in the Potions book weren't actually Snapes but Lily's and he was only good at Potions because she helped him.
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PostPosted: February 23, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: how you pictured it. Reply with quote

Since all the speculation is about to come to a close. I decided that it would be nice to Hear people's views on the sequence of events that lead to the whole Harry Potter story. This is my version. I am not saying that it is right.





THEN:

I just thought this up. You know how there's a loop hole on the whole Snape overhearing the prophacy thing. Tralawny knew Snape was listening in. That means she would have been out of her trance. So then wouldn't Snape have heard the whole thing.

So Snape is soooo regretting this whole Death Eater thing. He wants to get out. He tells Voldy only Half of the prophacy. He neglects to mention the : he will have a power the dark lord knows not.

Then Voldy decides he is going to kill the Potters: NO, this is not what severus wanted. Lily was such a wonderful person Bla Bla Bla. he tried to turn Voldy away from the idea that it could be Lily's baby. Now Snape at this point if fairly good at Occlumency. However the power of the thought of Lily dying is too much to keep out of his mind. Voldy sees that he is holding some sort of affection for her.

He deicdes to take pitty ( a rear thing) on Severus because he gave him such good info.

Severus now knows Lily good enough to know that there is no way she's letting Lord Voldypants kill her baby while she quietly watches. He needs to warn her. But no one knows where they are. Ahh Dumbledore must know, he is the leader of the Order

He goes to DD and tells him the story. Dumbledore calls on Lily and James and informs them of the Voldermorts plan. They decide to have a secret keeper. Snape knowing how close James was with Sirius knows it will be Sirius. However he doesnot trust Sirius too much after all his brother is a Death Eater.

Lily is still worried that the plan maynot work. In a private meeting with her old friend Severus she makes him take an unbreakable vow to protect Harry if anything should Happen to her. He reluctantly agrees.

Lily and James go into hiding in Godric's Hollow.

DD is worried about Snape ad the fact that he cannot control his emotions when it comes to Lily. He trains him up a bit so he can spy on Voldy for him. He gives Snape a job as Potions Master to keep him close my. He tells Seveus to convince Voldy that his could work to their advantage.

He sends him back to Voldy.

Voldy who was busy trying to find the Potters fianlly finds them when Wormtail tells him where they are. No one knows about this.

Voldy goes to the Potters and Kills James. He goes to Lily and tells her to step aside, 'Man does Severus owe me'. But she won't move. 'Oh well, might as well kill her anyway'. He kills her. Then Tries to Kill Harry. 'Oh Oh.' he looses his powers.

Now clever little Lilly knew that would happen all along. She knows a fair bit about old Magic. When Severus told her he begged for her life she figured out what she had to do when the need presented itself. She made Snape take the unbreakable vow because she knew Death Eaters would come looking for Harry once Voldy was unable to kill him.

THEN BOOKS ONE THROUGH SIX

Now:

Voldy now trust Snape. 'Wow he actally killed Dumbledore, even I couldn't do it.' The fact that he Killed his precious Lily slips his mind. 'After all he doesn't seem to be all worked up about it when I read his mind'.

Snape hates Voldy: 'That bastard killed the only woman i ever loved. I kill him.' But Snaoe is so good at Occlumency it is now impossible for Voldy to read his mind. He can even implant false memeories.

But the one thing still needs to be taken care off. He still has to keep his Vow to protect Harry. He would have been able to teach him every thing he needed to know had he been given the DADA post but he was never given the opportunity. IF he knew he had swore his life to protect James's child he wouldn't have bothered. Harry was nothing like Lily.

EVENTUALLY

Harry gets trained in all the thigns he needs to know somehow. Severus never reveals he is on the right side to Harry. 'Harry is awful at Occlumency he will get us both killed'.

Harry destroys the Horcrux and When it seems like Voldy is about to kill Harry that when Snape reveals he is Good. He kills Voldy, fulfilling the promise he made to Lily.

And it is done.

What do you think? Write your own Version of the events in the book.
I am not saying that this is right. I'm just saying this is what i pictured Happened.
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PostPosted: April 16, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gees, cool theory.
I think Snape had more then just a crush with Lily.
It is the connection that Snape have difficulty putting aside eversince Voldemort Killed her.
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PostPosted: April 16, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VampiraNights wrote:
Gees, cool theory.
I think Snape had more then just a crush with Lily.
It is the connection that Snape have difficulty putting aside eversince Voldemort Killed her.


eer have you read the last book?
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
VampiraNights wrote:
Gees, cool theory.
I think Snape had more then just a crush with Lily.
It is the connection that Snape have difficulty putting aside eversince Voldemort Killed her.


eer have you read the last book?


yeah, why? I said something wrong uh?
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VampiraNights wrote:
bery26 wrote:
VampiraNights wrote:
Gees, cool theory.
I think Snape had more then just a crush with Lily.
It is the connection that Snape have difficulty putting aside eversince Voldemort Killed her.


eer have you read the last book?


yeah, why? I said something wrong uh?


She is asking because you said that you "think" Snape had more than just a crush on Lily.
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
VampiraNights wrote:
bery26 wrote:
VampiraNights wrote:
Gees, cool theory.
I think Snape had more then just a crush with Lily.
It is the connection that Snape have difficulty putting aside eversince Voldemort Killed her.


eer have you read the last book?


yeah, why? I said something wrong uh?


She is asking because you said that you "think" Snape had more than just a crush on Lily.


Ohh. I was afriad that I interpret wrongly. Thats why I used 'think'.
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VampiraNights wrote:


Ohh. I was afriad that I interpret wrongly. Thats why I used 'think'.


Ohhh, I gotcha. Yeah, Snape definitely had more than a little crushy on Lily.
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
She is asking because you said that you "think" Snape had more than just a crush on Lily.


yeah lol thanks gin, you read my mind Wink

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> In sharing the Potions book, Snape might also have shared the "Levicorpus" curse with Lily, who in turn let it slip/shared it with James. James then used it on Snape (as seen in Snape's worst memory), and this contributed to why it was Snape's worst memory - his own curse used against him.


i dont think james heard it from lily, since lily didnt like him yet in their 5th year, when the "worst memory" happens

the most probable thing is that snape shared his creation with the slytherins, the slytherins started using them in other people so it became popular and so naturally it had to reach the marauders ears eventually
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:


i dont think james heard it from lily, since lily didnt like him yet in their 5th year, when the "worst memory" happens

the most probable thing is that snape shared his creation with the slytherins, the slytherins started using them in other people so it became popular and so naturally it had to reach the marauders ears eventually


I agree, and for the same reasons. Lily and James weren't friends in their fifth year. The impression I got from that memory was that Lily wouldn't have shared anything with James.
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PostPosted: April 19, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ exactly, she might have not hated him, but she certainly didnt like him yet
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PostPosted: April 20, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
i dont think james heard it from lily, since lily didnt like him yet in their 5th year, when the "worst memory" happens


Yes, I agree. She didn't like him yet and I think she wouldn't be so mean to tell James the curse.

Well, whatsoever.

Poor Sev.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i think that snape was in love with Lilly.
After reading DH i really couldnt argue with the fact that he was in love with her, when they wer kids you could tell that snape like lilly, and from what i read i thought that they wer rather close throut school, not as close as snaoe wanted to be though, coz he felt that he wasnt suppose to like her as much because she was a muggle born.
This is obvious when he turned around and said "I dont want help from a mudblood" - he was trying to deny the feelings that he had for her, but then he begged her to forgive him and blah blah - which means that he really did regret it, cuz no future death eater is gunna go up 2 a muggleborn and say sorry unless they really have feeling for them.
and also who in their right friggin minds would just waltz up to voldy and ask him not to kill a muggle-born if they dont truly love that person (i bloody wouldnt).
And lastly his potronus turned into a doe, after lilly.

Thats sucked all my brainpower away
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh.. Severus/Lily is my favorite ship, ever. I only like one other ship.. and that's Tom/Minerva - hey, don't judge!

Anyway.. have you ever figured out why Snape wanted Harry to look into his eyes before he died?

(besides collecting his memories)

Harry had Lily's eyes. Snape wanted it to be the last thing he saw before his death. AWWWW. Sad
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nagem0 wrote:


Anyway.. have you ever figured out why Snape wanted Harry to look into his eyes before he died?

(besides collecting his memories)

Harry had Lily's eyes. Snape wanted it to be the last thing he saw before his death. AWWWW. Sad


Yeah well. That has been said 100 million times already. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black wrote:
nagem0 wrote:


Anyway.. have you ever figured out why Snape wanted Harry to look into his eyes before he died?

(besides collecting his memories)

Harry had Lily's eyes. Snape wanted it to be the last thing he saw before his death. AWWWW. Sad


Yeah well. That has been said 100 million times already. Rolling Eyes


Yeah well. That hasn't been said in this thread until I posted it. So.

I know it's been mentioned in OTHER threads, but not this one.
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raindrop wrote:
Well i think that snape was in love with Lilly.
After reading DH i really couldnt argue with the fact that he was in love with her, when they wer kids you could tell that snape like lilly, and from what i read i thought that they wer rather close throut school, not as close as snaoe wanted to be though, coz he felt that he wasnt suppose to like her as much because she was a muggle born.
This is obvious when he turned around and said "I dont want help from a mudblood" - he was trying to deny the feelings that he had for her, but then he begged her to forgive him and blah blah - which means that he really did regret it, cuz no future death eater is gunna go up 2 a muggleborn and say sorry unless they really have feeling for them.
and also who in their right friggin minds would just waltz up to voldy and ask him not to kill a muggle-born if they dont truly love that person (i bloody wouldnt).
And lastly his potronus turned into a doe, after lilly.

Thats sucked all my brainpower away


i think there is absolutly no doubt that snape was very much in love with lily after reading deathly hallows, so there's no need to clarify, this thread was created before DH now everyone knows the truth

then, i think snape called her a mudblood because of his utter humilliation at that moment without really meaning it, he was trying to look better at the moment so he said something very stupid, i dont believe he had any descrimination against muggleborns

i think he knew very well his feelings for her, but didnt think she could ever feel the same for him, and thats why i think he never tried anything

also, he had always loved the dark arts too so that created a sort of separation between them as they grew older
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that he wanted her to be mrs snape
ergo her wanted to share everything with him
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PostPosted: May 7, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nagem0 wrote:
Black wrote:
nagem0 wrote:


Anyway.. have you ever figured out why Snape wanted Harry to look into his eyes before he died?

(besides collecting his memories)

Harry had Lily's eyes. Snape wanted it to be the last thing he saw before his death. AWWWW. Sad


Yeah well. That has been said 100 million times already. Rolling Eyes


Yeah well. That hasn't been said in this thread until I posted it. So.

I know it's been mentioned in OTHER threads, but not this one.


oh, ok, ok. I just thought everyone knew by now. Smile
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yeah i'm impressed. i never thought about these things...haha Wink
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