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RiddleisOurKing
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PostPosted: June 24, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I think Voldemort would have had a separate wand made by Olivander, afterall, he did go missing in HBP.

Voldemort knows he can't duel Harry because they have brother wands and he's always looking to add numbers to his army but if Harry was to get a hold of the wand, he could control the spirits.

If you do some google searches you can find some of the myths on the internet that have to do with raising souls from the dead and using them to your advantage, it's not Harry Potter stuff either, it's just general ancient magic that people apparently used to believe in.
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PostPosted: June 24, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooh.. it kinda sounds like one of my theories in the inheritance trilogy where galbatorix uses the power from the vault of souls to become more powerful.

ooh i like that!
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uppers to coincide with the Mundungus goblet discussion.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I dont think the barman is dumbledors brother.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes he is. JkR says this in an in interview and why else would the weird barman come to Albus' funeral?

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Ooh—you are getting good. Why do you think that it is Aberforth? [Audience member: Various clues. He smells of goats and he looks a bit like Dumbledore]. I was quite proud of that clue. That is all that I am going to say. [Laughter]. Well yes, obviously. I like the goat clue—I sniggered to myself about that one.

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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of people went to dembledores funeral, that dosent mean they were al family, and if he was dumbledores brother shouldent he have told dumbledore, and if dumbledore new about the locket why didnt he telll harry, and why did he go into the cave.

It could have been a fake interview.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

welllllll... just because other people are posting fake spoilers you don't have to be that paranoid. This interview has been around for a long while, many many people even on this board have referenced it. But if you just want to believe it's fake because that's what you want to believe, you are entitled to do that.

Anyway, if you would have read all of my evidence you would have seen that I said that Aberforth probably would not have known it was a horcrux. Perhaps he just thought it was a locket of the Black family and thought it to be valuable?

Hardly anyone in the wizarding world knows about horcruxes and I don't think Aberforth would be in the know. The point is, he bought it not knowing what it was. He is not a very good wizard, Albus says in GoF, jokingly, that he's not even sure his brother knows how to read. He does unnatural things to goats.

Plus there is no evidence that the brothers talk on a frequent basis and he would not tell Albus, his upstanding brother if he had bought a stolen good. Like I said, he didn't know it was the horcrux, so what reason would he have had to inform Albus?

But as I said, I've already defended this argument weeks ago in the thread. A lot of my evidence is in multiple posts throughout the entire thread as people responded to this, so you have to take the time to read it.

Now, I will admit, this all relies on the theory that the locket they see in Grimmauld Place is the actual horcrux locket, that perhaps RAB hid there before he was murdered. He was in a hurry as he was murdered just days after he left the Death Eaters (this is established in the Burrow in HBP). So wouldn't he have had to stash it somewhere quick if he had an inkling he was about to meet his demise?

This theory hinges on a lot of things but to try to dismiss it by saying why didn't Aberforth tell Albus about it, you just have to use a little common sense and come to the reasonable conclusion that they are apparently not very close, at least from any information we have been given. Although I do love the irony that he could have saved his brothers life by telling him, but I just have to assume Aberforth was ignorant to this.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe Aberforth is a death eater, Shocked And is getting the locket back for the dark lord.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if your being serious or not but I'll respond in a way that you are.

Voldemort probably wouldn't know that his horcrux was ever taken by R.A.B. in the first place. But I guess maybe Aberforth is smarter than Albus thinks and knows everything, even more than him and Voldemort.


Anyways, I just was saying I've presented a lot of good evidence. Is it rock solid? No, but it's just a good of theory as just about anything else, IMO. There are loopholes to just about every theory out there, but I think for this theory there are also loopholes to the loopholes that can be examined. Wink
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I was being serious, maybe voldmort found out, and Aberforth is working for him.

But on the other hand it is also posibal that voldmort does not know, and maybe Aberforth bought it from Mundungus , and planned to sell it for more, to that guy that sold draco the vanishing cabnet. and if that lockets going to be flying around the market, somebody will find out sooner or later.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nuts if Aberforth was in cahoots with Voldemort.

Also I like the symbolism in the chapter, as this is the same chapter that Katie Bell gets cursed by the necklace from Burks.

Obviously not trying to make a literal connection between that necklace and the locket but I think it's safe to say the horcrux locket, where ever it is, is on a necklace itself... So just I just thought if this theory did come true that the whole thing would be great symbolism.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what els do you think about the locket, like who do you think will end up haveing it, in the end.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I have never heard this theory before now. It is all something of a mystery to me only because I have not ever before heard that. It has a good literary standpoint, but JK has never really written from a literary standpoint that others find, though she has dropped clues like that before to test her fans.
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PostPosted: July 19, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the neck part is the most telling clue for me...

Harry recognized him as the barmen of the Hog Head. As Harry, Ron, and Hermione drew closer he drew is cloak more tightly around his NECK and walked away, leaving the shorter man fumbling with something in his arms.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it may play an important part in book 7...

or it may be nothing

There is so much to be discovered in book seven that maybe we are reading to much into EVERYTHING!!


"omg ron was arguing with malfoy" *dramatic pause* "He must be up to something...." *Dramatic Pause* "Maybe...just maybe ron saw something and is goling to get killed because of this!!! *gasps*
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure it will be important.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah your probably right...j/s....
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This little nugget of a scene almost seems too vague not to be important, if that makes any sense. If this theory was even like 25% true, I'd freak out.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a lot of motive and examples behind it though. I actually think that, perhaps, this theory will be one of few that actually turn out to be correct, or partially correct (And by partially I mean more than one little detail).

Oh and I LOVE the sig RiddleIsOurKing. She is such a hottie in the movies and that pic, WOW.
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PostPosted: July 20, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiddleisOurKing wrote:
This little nugget of a scene almost seems too vague not to be important, if that makes any sense. If this theory was even like 25% true, I'd freak out.
The book comes out, in less than a day, then you can bounce in here and rub it in everybodys face your were right

Thats if your right, which it looks like you have a good chance of being right about some stuff at least.
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoiler:

Well I was right that Mundungus stole the locket and that he did sell something to Aberforth in the scene in HBP... He just didn't sell him the locket, the piece of mirror instead... Either way, I feel pretty vindicated that I came really really close.


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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he didnt sell it to Aberforth, because in DH, it mentions that mundugus had to give it up (or sell it, cant remember which one) to Umbridge
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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoiler:

he sold Ab the whole mirror, not a piece. Sirius' wasn't broken


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PostPosted: July 22, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iLUVcho wrote:
he didnt sell it to Aberforth, because in DH, it mentions that mundugus had to give it up (or sell it, cant remember which one) to Umbridge


Spoiler:

If you read what I said, in my last post in this thread, I said I was sort of right, based on the fact that he did steal the locket. and that he did make an actual transaction with Aberforth. I didn't say I was 100% right but I was pretty close to the track with this theory. I have finished the book, thats why I said that.

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[spoiler]Well I was right that Mundungus stole the locket and that he did sell something to Aberforth in the scene in HBP... He just didn't sell him the locket, the piece of mirror instead... Either way, I feel pretty vindicated that I came really really close.

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