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zengrenouille
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There was no "passion" in the kiss. Ginny even described them as being like two "eels." That's not passion, that is two teens making out.. |
They were snogging everywhere, and did they really look like 2 eels? Wow, sounds passionate enough to me!
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Wow . . . You're idea of passio is sort of disturbing . . . eels . . . That isn't exactly a charming metaphor IMO.
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Ron didn't like Lavender. He only wanted to kiss her. |
Wow, that means their kisses were really pure. They kissed just because they wanted to kiss each other, not because of someone/something else. Good for them. I think Lav was really very sexy and seductive that Ron couldn't resist. At least, she's more attractive than Hermione, the Iceberg, who just wanted to have platonic relationship with boys.
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Ron didn't want to kiss lavendar. He wanted to seem experienced after his little sister showed him up. He was trying to prove himself, and that was the only reason that he wanted to kiss Lavendar. Lavendar wasn't sexy or seductive, and her wiles went straight over Ron's head. He really wasn't interested.
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Btw, what kind of boys/men would kiss someone they didn't like?
Playboys? perverts? idiots? Gigolos?
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. . .Ron . . . He was not a playboy, pervert (I think it's hilarious that yo added this one to the list. Perverts kiss people who like them? I always thought that perverts were people who made foul passes at people who did not appreciate those passes.), idiot, or gigolo. He is a kid who just never measure up to those who surround him. When even his little sister was showing him up, he reacted like any normal boy in his situation would.
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What does that moment in X-Files have to do with Ron and Hermione's first kiss? The two moments were nothing alike at all. Hermone doesn't value house-elves more than Ron. It was Ron that thought of them being in danger, not her. |
Agent Scully kissed her boss because he tried to save someone she really loved and cared for.
Unlike Lav, Hermione kissed Ron NOT because she wanted to kiss him, she wanted to kiss him because he tried to save the elves she really loved and cared for.
I couldn't help thinking that way. I shouldn't watch that episode but I already have. |
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I think that you have it backwards. Hermione spent years not kissing Ron, even though she wanted to. It was when he finally showed an interest in something that she was passionate about that she gave in to the desire to kiss him. Hermione spent years attending quidditch matches in support or Ron and Harry, helping them maintian good grades even though they refused to listen to her advice about doing their homework before it was too late to finish it, and sacrificing herself in so many other ways for the sake of Ron and Harry, trying to deal with their mood swings tactfully while suppressing her own anger -- this list could go on forever. Hermione always catered to the passions of the boys while they passed he passion off as strange. She needed Ron to give her some semblance of understanding before she could make her move.
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cleo
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| Posted: April 7, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Wow . . . You're idea of passio is sort of disturbing . . . eels . . . That isn't exactly a charming metaphor IMO.
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Ha-ha, you have no idea!!!!! BTW, are you grown-up? Shouldn't talk to an underage about these things!!!!!
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Ron didn't want to kiss lavendar. He wanted to seem experienced after his little sister showed him up. He was trying to prove himself, and that was the only reason that he wanted to kiss Lavendar. Lavendar wasn't sexy or seductive, and her wiles went straight over Ron's head. He really wasn't interested.
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He's a playboy then. He's using Lavendar! A playboy is a playboy no matter how many excuses he has.
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She needed Ron to give her some semblance of understanding before she could make her move. |
Great theory, I can assume Viktor gave her enough understanding to get her kiss! |
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GinnyX
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| Posted: April 7, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| cleo wrote: |
| zengrenouille wrote: |
Wow . . . You're idea of passio is sort of disturbing . . . eels . . . That isn't exactly a charming metaphor IMO.
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Ha-ha, you have no idea!!!!! BTW, are you grown-up? Shouldn't talk to an underage about these things!!!!! |
I guess this conversation is over, then. Please get back to us when you are old enough to understand the difference between two teenagers making out and two adults in love.
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| Posted: April 7, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: |
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cleo, trust me, ur not going to win, these girls are BERY stubborn 
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zengrenouille
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| Posted: April 7, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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She needed Ron to give her some semblance of understanding before she could make her move. |
Great theory, I can assume Viktor gave her enough understanding to get her kiss! |
Don't you see? That's exactly what Viktor did! He spent day after day sitting in the library looking through books just to get a chance to talk to Hermione. Hermione was passionate about books, and we later learn that Voktor is more jock than thinker. It was a beautiful act for him to put so much time and energy into getting Hermione's attention . . . especially when he had the Triwizard Tournament to think about.
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| Posted: April 7, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| cleo, trust me, ur not going to win, these girls are BERY stubborn |
Just because they hate Lavendar and Ron together doesn't mean that everyone should follow them! I really love Ron and Lavendar getting together. Lav Lav and Ron Ron, sounds really cute and fun to me.
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She needed Ron to give her some semblance of understanding before she could make her move. |
Great theory, I can assume Viktor gave her enough understanding to get her kiss! |
Don't you see? That's exactly what Viktor did! He spent day after day sitting in the library looking through books just to get a chance to talk to Hermione. Hermione was passionate about books, and we later learn that Voktor is more jock than thinker. It was a beautiful act for him to put so much time and energy into getting Hermione's attention . . . especially when he had the Triwizard Tournament to think about. |
... and which doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow . . . You're idea of passio is sort of disturbing . . . eels . . . That isn't exactly a charming metaphor IMO.
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Ha-ha, you have no idea!!!!! BTW, are you grown-up? Shouldn't talk to an underage about these things!!!!! |
I guess this conversation is over, then. Please get back to us when you are old enough to understand the difference between two teenagers making out and two adults in love. |
To kiss a guy because he cares for the people you care for won't make you love him.
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Alastor Moody
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cleo, please refrain from double posting especially triple posting. This is against our forum rules and considered spam.
Thank you.
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Arabella
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| Posted: April 8, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| At least, she's more attractive than Hermione, the Iceberg, who just wanted to have platonic relationship with boys. |
so girls should sex themselves up for boys or there is something wrong with them? Hermione wanted a real relationship with somebody mature. she wasn't going to lower her standards. I find that admirable. at that moment ron proved himself to have grown from a boy into a man. he was no longer just thinking selfishly.
it can also be very awkward transitioning from friends to more than friends. there is so much at stake and we know from what appeared in the horcrux that ron wasn't sure how hermione felt about him (he was afraid she loved harry).
I can't say they didn't kiss before that, I have no hard evidence. but that is really what I think. you don't have evidence either. we will just have to agree to disagree.
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cleo
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| Posted: April 10, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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so girls should sex themselves up for boys or there is something wrong with them? Hermione wanted a real relationship with somebody mature. she wasn't going to lower her standards. I find that admirable. at that moment ron proved himself to have grown from a boy into a man. he was no longer just thinking selfishly.
it can also be very awkward transitioning from friends to more than friends. there is so much at stake and we know from what appeared in the horcrux that ron wasn't sure how hermione felt about him (he was afraid she loved harry).
I can't say they didn't kiss before that, I have no hard evidence. but that is really what I think. you don't have evidence either. we will just have to agree to disagree. |
"If you went out and got a bit of snogging done yourself you wouldn't mind so much that everyone else does it!"
Have a bit of snogging won't get you pregnant.
If a girl really wants to go out with a mature boy, she should step out his little dreamland and really find someone who suits her, and loves him who he is, loves him the way he is.
Try to remould your friend to match the model of your ideal boyfriend is unrealistic. What do you want him to change? His personality? His look? His hobbies? His teeth? His hair style? His style of living?
Who is the immature one?
And I don't think Hermione is such kind of idealist who could only snog her prince charming.
Just because Harry didn't see it doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't. Rowling never wrote they had bath or shower until GOF. Does it mean they never had bath. |
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Arabella
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lol I already said I couldn't prove it.
she didn't try to change ron either...when she kissed him he said the elves thing completely of his own volition. its not like she handed him a piece of paper and told him to read it and then got all misty eyed.
and she did love ron the way he was...as a person, she just wanted him to grow up a little first. mature. she had had enough arguments with him as just friends, he needed to become a little less self-centered before a relationship would have worked out. and I said there were many other hurdles to jump as well.
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cleo
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and she did love ron the way he was...as a person, she just wanted him to grow up a little first. mature. she had had enough arguments with him as just friends, he needed to become a little less self-centered before a relationship would have worked out. and I said there were many other hurdles to jump as well. |
If she was thinking what you think, then she didn't love ron the way he was, she loved ron the way he would grow up, which may or may not happen. Then should a girl waste her whole life to wait for a boy to grow up and hoping one day this boy would really grow up and suit her? |
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Arabella
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so what, she should start a relationship at a point where he's just going to aggravate her? that sounds like a recipe for disaster. and all because she might have to wait forever? you make her sound desperate, she's not that kind of girl.
I mean she loved him as a friend as he was, but she needed more out of somebody she was going to have a romantic relationship with.
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so what, she should start a relationship at a point where he's just going to aggravate her? that sounds like a recipe for disaster. and all because she might have to wait forever? you make her sound desperate, she's not that kind of girl.
I mean she loved him as a friend as he was, but she needed more out of somebody she was going to have a romantic relationship with. |
No no no, I'm not talking about H/R in particular. I'm just talking about people in general. I don't think it's appropiate for anyone to make false hope on their friends and try to turn them, or wait them to become their ideal lovers. It might not work in reality. H/R is a fairy tale. Fairy tale is just a fairy tale. |
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Arabella
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well I would hope in real life, if you had a friend that you felt attracted to, if you didn't see the relationship working out for whatever reason (say they are selfish and argumentative like Ron was) you just wouldn't pursue the relationship. just stay friends. you shouldn't go out with anyone if you can't see the relationship working out.
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| It's fiction. All the topics discussed here are of fiction, and people seem to believe they are almost real. I don't play down how important a novel or a character is for a person, moreover if that person has been following this character for years. I agree with the idea that is just a fairy tale, but all the story is awkwardly hard to believe if you attempt to understand it reasonably. The seven novels lean on these fictional elements. So the relationship between Ron and Hermione isn't particular. |
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i prefered Ron and Hermione's because i'm ot much of a Harry and Ginny shipper ^^
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We all knew it was coming harry and ginny and also ron and hermoine but not me in these books. DH ron and hermoine wins for me bc they found love lol in a dark time plus emma watson play hermoine and she is hott
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ron and hermonie
it was a classic kiss that i didnt see coming
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Ron and Hermione, it was so cute =)
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lol its kinda funny how you guys are so serious about this
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| Posted: May 9, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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about what?
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Somebody preety much said Ginny was giving Harry some booty and Ron and Hermoines was a kiss. kinda funny. But i kno he wasent serious. And also they were saying 2 adults in love and two teenagres makin out. Kinda funny, well to me. 
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