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cleo
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PostPosted: April 1, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Harry's first is a French kiss? Reply with quote

I wonder if there's anyone ever thought about that.
It's true that Cho was crying but the tears were clinging to her eyelashes, not on her lips.

Harry was in shock after the kiss. He wanted to take the secret with him to the grave. Somehow Hermione managed to get him opened up to them. When Ron asked him how it was like, he replied "wet" truthfully. Ha!!! This is the proof!!!!!!!

Then perhaps he remembered this privacy was not only concerned about himself but also Cho, he shouldn't share it with some other people, so he decided to cover it with a lie.

Whoa!!!

What do you think?
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PostPosted: April 1, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He says wet because she was crying. We don't know what kind of kiss it was, the book cuts off before it is described.
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PostPosted: April 1, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, me don't think it's a french one.
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PostPosted: April 1, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think so.
it didnt look like that in the movies Razz

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PostPosted: April 1, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The movies are not anything.. Cant go by those.. And yeah the book cuts out before we can actually tell what kind of kiss it was.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harry was kissed by Hermione, Fleur, and Mrs Weasley before. It's true that they only kissed him on his cheek, but if it's only an ordinary kiss like a goodbye kiss or a thank you kiss, no big deal, hmmm!!!!
Why was he in shock? He even wanted to take this secret to his grave.

Secondly, he just said "wet", not "salty", and he said it truthfully!!!
Come on, how many of you can kiss something salty without noticing it? Tears are rather salty!!! And how many times do you lick your lips in a day? Trust me, it is not just 3 or 4 times, cos' I wear lipstick very often especially in autumn and winter. If it's really tears, he should reply "wet and salty" truthfully.

I bet Cho taught him how to do it by demostrating it herself. And Cho had learned it from Cedric. Harry didn't even know this was called French kiss. He just knew it's really completely different from Fleur's thank you kiss or Hermione and Mrs Weasley's good bye kiss. That's why he was in shock.

Maybe Rowling didn't describe much on purpose because it's suppose to be a children's book!!! Kids will probably skip it and believe it's just a kiss. Somehow she left a clue here so the adults will understand beyond the words.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tears, when they fall... fall down. Sometimes towards the mouth. Making the kiss wet. I think JKR only used the word "wet" because it made the following joke funny. If she had harry say "wet and salty" then not only wouldn't that be funny, but that kiss would have taken on a whole new meaning.

Kissing, although an art, is not rocket science. I somehow can't picture Cho taking the time to stop crying about Cedric's death to teach Harry how to kiss like Cedric.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well what kind of kind could have it been then? I reckon it was french. Well maybe because I think if it`s not French then it`s not real at all. Embarassed
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black wrote:
well what kind of kind could have it been then?


A kiss that isn't "french."

Non-French kisses are kisses, too.

I'm not saying it wasn't a french kiss, just that we don't know for a fact it was. JKR left it out because the details aren't important. What is important is that it happened at all. We don't need the insignificant details.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
Black wrote:
well what kind of kind could have it been then?


A kiss that isn't "french."

Non-French kisses are kisses, too.

I'm not saying it wasn't a french kiss, just that we don't know for a fact it was. JKR left it out because the details aren't important. What is important is that it happened at all. We don't need the insignificant details.


It's insignificant to you doesn't mean it's insignificant to Harry!!!
Harry was in SHOCK.
And it doesn't mean it's insignificant to all HP fans. Maybe someone like me DO CARE!!!
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't Ginny mention that Harry snogged Cho in HBP? When I get to that part, but maybe I remember it wrong. I'm almost positive that snogging involved direct tongue. Maybe it is to be assumed that it was a french kiss . . . do they use that term in Europe? IT just doesn't seem to work for HP.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
Black wrote:
well what kind of kind could have it been then?


A kiss that isn't "french."

Non-French kisses are kisses, too.

I'm not saying it wasn't a french kiss, just that we don't know for a fact it was. JKR left it out because the details aren't important. What is important is that it happened at all. We don't need the insignificant details.


I know, I know it is a kiss but I just think... oh well... it doesn`t matter now. Rolling Eyes

cleo wrote:
It's insignificant to you doesn't mean it's insignificant to Harry!!!
Harry was in SHOCK.
And it doesn't mean it's insignificant to all HP fans. Maybe someone like me DO CARE!!!


Geez. Harry`s a fictional character. If something is significant to him then it`s because Rowling made it so.
In SHOCK for his first kiss? Oh gosh. I don`t think it was so much as shock.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
Didn't Ginny mention that Harry snogged Cho in HBP? When I get to that part, I'll post the direct wuote, but I'm almost point, I'll post the direct quote, but maybe I remember it wrong. I'm almost positive that snogging involved direct tongue. Maybe it is to be assumed that it was a french kiss . . . do they use that term in Europe? IT just doesn't seem to work for HP.


She did mention it in HBP but Harry didn`t snog Cho in HBP, it was OotP. I read that part recently as I`m rereading HBP.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelPotter20 wrote:
The movies are not anything.. Cant go by those.. And yeah the book cuts out before we can actually tell what kind of kiss it was.


well said about the movies hahah

i think it was a french kiss, harry sounded more like he had just been french kissed than received a small kiss
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
Didn't Ginny mention that Harry snogged Cho in HBP? When I get to that part, I'll post the direct wuote, but I'm almost point, I'll post the direct quote, but maybe I remember it wrong. I'm almost positive that snogging involved direct tongue. Maybe it is to be assumed that it was a french kiss . . . do they use that term in Europe? IT just doesn't seem to work for HP.


She did mention it in HBP but Harry didn`t snog Cho in HBP, it was OotP. I read that part recently as I`m rereading HBP.


First of all, I can't believe that you made any sense of that post. Second of all, I know he didn't snog her in HBP. My point was that Ginny mentioned it specifically as snogging, I think.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how would ginny know the deatils though? u think hermy told her? or did she just assume?
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
how would ginny know the deatils though? u think hermy told her? or did she just assume?


There are a million situations in which Ginny could have heard the details.

Hermione could have told her, for one. It wasn't like Harry asked her to keep it a secret.

It could have come up in conversation sometime during the summer, when Harry was there.

Sho could have told her.

She could have heard Jo telling some one else.

This list could go on for ages.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She could have heard Jo telling some one else.


what? jo? Laughing
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
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She could have heard Jo telling some one else.


what? jo? Laughing


lol . . . that was supposed to be Cho. There is something wrong with my posting ability today for some reason.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its cool lol

but i dont know, i always saw harry as a private guy about this stuff and if thats the case i dont think hermione would've told ginny

i dont know about cho though
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
its cool lol

but i dont know, i always saw harry as a private guy about this stuff and if thats the case i dont think hermione would've told ginny

i dont know about cho though


Cho is definately the type to kiss and tell.
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hhahaha i can feel the love u have for cho Laughing
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PostPosted: April 2, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
hhahaha i can feel the love u have for cho Laughing


Weel, I didn't mean that like it's a bad thing. I mean, what is there to tell about a freaking kiss. She is just the type to let her her emotions show and gush about things.
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PostPosted: April 3, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
bery26 wrote:
its cool lol

but i dont know, i always saw harry as a private guy about this stuff and if thats the case i dont think hermione would've told ginny

i dont know about cho though


Cho is definately the type to kiss and tell.


Why would she do that? She's already got enough attention. She's very popular in her house. Remember? And she didn't seem to need money so badly.


Black wrote:


Geez. Harry`s a fictional character. If something is significant to him then it`s because Rowling made it so.
In SHOCK for his first kiss? Oh gosh. I don`t think it was so much as shock.


OotP, The eye of the snake, P404(UK) line 9: Harry didn't answer. He was in a state of shock.

That's the exact term Rowling used. I just want to know what Rowling pictured that kiss in her mind. She definitely left some clues here to see if you guys can tie up the loose ends.
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