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i dont agree, but i wanna know what evidence people have for that........anyone know a site????

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Type "Sirius Black is not dead" into yahoo or google, you'll find lots of sites
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Maybe now this site will show up if you type that in. Razz

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Posts: 12 · Posted: July 21, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject:

i dunno seems real. it is sad but she has also killed cedric in the fourth so it could be who knows! guess we have to wait for the seventh for it all to be revealed.

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Well as far as we know he is dead and I don't think he could possibly be alive. I know that the Viel is a very mysterious object and we don't know much about it but, i think it's rather dangerous somehow and that's why it was there. I think that when Sirius got knocked back and went behind the Viel he died...plus why would JK say that she killed off a character and then say..."oh he's not dead"...doesn't make much sense on her part. Nope he's dead and I don't think he'll be returning.

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i agree it wouldnt make sense, nut cant we just hope....
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Hey no one saw Sirius's dead body did they, he just fell through a viel. Maybe he has been transported to China or something, and he is still on his way back to England.
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Posts: 135 · Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Location: USA Posts: 135

I dunno about China and all ... But I do agree with that it could be a portal. And I am about 100% sure that he isn't dead. It looks like ... I dunno, in the room where the veil is, it is like an auditorium. There are seats all around. They must watch something ... It isn't a portal to Azkaban is it? Seeing as there was whispering and stuff.
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Okay, China is a bit way off.......maybe he married a Japanese woman and settled down (jokin).

Lets hope it was a portal, and that Sirius will soon come back.
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I really hope so ... He was cool.
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Sirius is also the name of a star, it's also called the star of rebirth or
"the dogstar". It's the brigtest star in the group (?) "the great dog"

A long time ago, I opened a topic about this on a Dutch site. I'll try to translate what I wrote and then I'll edit this post...

Edit:
This is the translation, (please forgive me for making horrible faults, I'm only fifteen Smile

) there were quotes from the books, but I'm not at home (University Smile

) so I don't have the Dutch or the English versions.

Translation:
I was surfing around on the internet when I found an artikel about what we can expect in book 7. One of the things it said was:
The infamous question from the World Book Day chat read, "If we ever see Sirius again, what form will he be in?" Jo said, "I couldn't possibly answer that for fear of incriminating myself."
Why?
Telling us about a part of book 7?

Options for returning:
1) He becomes a ghost
2) He isn't dead
3) There's another Priori Incantatem (with Bellatrix)
4) As a sort-of-ghost, because of a Horcrux
5) The veil was a time-portal
6) A pensive
7) The two-way mirror

He becomes a ghost
There are a few reasons why someone becomes a ghost. He is afraid of death (Nearly Headless Nick) or he has unfinished buisness.
In Sirius' case it could be that he has to protect Harry (or at least thinks he has to). For example the letters he wrote to harry during the Triwizard Tournament.
Extra argument: Nick has given a detailed explenation about ghosts, but hasn't been used yet. (And JK doesn't introduce us to things, just for the fun of it)

He isn't dead
When Lupin tells Harry that Sirius isn't there, he doesn't use the word dead. He says: He is gone.
Also; Sirius was hit by a red spell. Avada Kedavra is green. What spell do we know that's red, Paralitis.
When hit by Avada Kedavra, the victim dies instanly. Sirius still had time to open his eyes in shock and (after some time) there was fear and suprise on his face. In Carlo's eyes there was no expression and he had a slightly suprised look on his face.

There's another Priori Incantatem (with Bellatrix)
The Proiri Incantatem has only been used once. Marcel get's a new wand after his old one got broken in the MoM. And again, JK re-uses things.
Extra with this one: Harry isn't going to finish Voldy through a game of quidditch nor is he or voldemort alone.

As a sort-of-ghost, because of a Horcrux
I don't think this to be very likely, but I'm just naming all the options. JK did say that Sirius' motor will return in book 7. (Same for mr. Weasleys car.)

The veil was a time-portal
Does anyone remember Stubby? Very Happy

And again timeturners? Just once?
The department of the MoM were Sirius get's killed is the department of time; that thing with the egg and the bird... a cabinet that keeps getting broken and reapairing itself. (Harry assumed it was full of timeturnes), the phropecy's (predicting the future), the brains (memories (past)).
Would a time portal in the middle of this area be so weird?

And there's Stubby Boardman, he's mentioned in an artikel in the Quibbler. Was that just to entertain hp-readers?
Well, they have the same initials, and Luna says this when Harry tries to convince Hermione that they need to go to the Mom:
"Though clearly trying to understand what was going on, Ginny said immediately 'Yeah, we'll do it,' and Luna said, 'When you say "Sirius," are you talking about Stubby Boardman?'"

And Kingsley Shacklebolt sent a copy of that artikel to Sirius (he gave it to Arthur on the day of Harry's trial). Maybe that's where Sirius got the idea.

A pensive
He wouldn't be able to talk, but the memorie might have information about horcruxes. (Maybe a conversation with Dumbledore or Regulus)

The two-way mirror
This has only been used once, again: not just mentioned for fun.
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Posts: 81 · Posted: October 18, 2006 10:49 am Post subject:

Here are my thoughts:

1. Sirius fell through a freagin' veil, and not off of the Grand Canyon.
2. The spell used to hit him was NOT an unforgivable curse.
3. Harry needs Sirius (as do I).
4. Why would Jo give Harry security through Black if she were to just
rip it away?
5. I like the number 5.
6. Nobody, including Sirius's best mate Lupin, has mourned for him.
7. Harry has the two-way mirror that he is yet to use-
More than likely something will happen when he uses it.

...and finally,
8. How will I marry him if he doesn't come back? Very Happy

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I re-read the book and Harry threw the mirror into pieces... (but they did learn the reparo spell Very Happy

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Posts: 81 · Posted: October 25, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:

Exactly!
Plus, I don't think that Sirius will come back as a ghost because of what Nearly Headless Nick told Harry.

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I'm not saying I believe all of them... I'm just lining all the posibility's Very Happy

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Posts: 81 · Posted: October 30, 2006 10:09 am Post subject:

I know that he has tried, I'm only pointing out that it hasn't worked as of now. Tessa wasn't stating that I should re-read the book, only that the mirror was smashed, and that they did, in fact, learn a certain spell.
Perhaps, you should re-read the posts - twit.

Posts: 657 · Posted: October 30, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:

BTW: Sorry for calling you a twit. That was a little extreme.
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Posts: 81 · Posted: October 31, 2006 10:01 am Post subject:

A wee bit, yeah.
...Sorry for snapping... Rolling Eyes

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I think that the curtain is probably a portal to another dimension. Either that or it leads to a secret room and Sirius is kind of trapped inside. I think if it lead to anywhere on this world (even if it was Azkaban), Sirius would at least try to write to Harry.
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Posts: 609 · Joined: Oct 17, 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 609

Well, I think that the veil will have something to do with te plot of book 7; I mean, JK doesn't introduce things in the books because it's fun...

And everyone is concentrating on the death of Sirius when they read that part... not on the veil.

(Luna could help Harry with it in some way, she heard the voices too)
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Posts: 4358 · Joined: Nov 25, 2006 Location: Home of the hits Posts: 4358

i don't think he is dead.
i think he is kind of like stuck in limbo somewhere.
and i really think he will either come back or harry will find some way to communicate with him.
he is too important to die.
and jkr confirmed dumbledore was def dead and not coming back, but she didn't say the same about sirius.
i love sirius, i don't want him to be dead. Crying or Very sad

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The following quote is from an interview with JK Rowling around the time the fifth book comes out, and obiously it is on the OOtP:

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there might be a chance he is alive but i know the time turners cant be used cause they were broken when harry and company were fighting the death eaters!
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