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cleo
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 Posted: March 16, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: Do you think DD knew everything from the beginning? spoiler |
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(Warning: If you didn't finish DH, then don't read!)
I mean how Harry's scar related to Voldy, the horcruxes and Harry must die...
Otherwise, in Harry's year one, why did he bother to keep that snitch for Harry? Did he really just to keep it as a souvenir, or he'd already reckoned the Stone must be one of the horcruxes and he would find it one day and keep it for Harry, so Harry wouldn't be alone when he had to die? |
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remember that dumble himself said that he only started the whole horcrux theory when harry showed him the diary in the 2nd book, so i dont know what he thought of the scar connection before
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| Posted: March 16, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| remember that dumble himself said that he only started the whole horcrux theory when harry showed him the diary in the 2nd book, so i dont know what he thought of the scar connection before |
Do u remember what Hagrid said in PS? He asked DD if he could remove baby Harry's scar. DD said something like scar could be useful and he got a scar like a map of London or the tube...
Why did he say "scar can be useful", if he didn't know? Maybe he had hypothesis but couldn't prove until the whole story unfold itself. |
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because he knew perfectly well that it wasnt just a regular scar, because it had come from dark curse and maybe even then he knew it might be useful for harry
he probably suspected the connection and all, but he only really figured it out in harry's years at hogwarts, at least that's what it seems to me
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I think DD sustpected certain things, but learned more about it during Harry's years at Hogwarts. Like, DD knew about Voldemort's Horcruxes, but when Harry got the untainted memory from Slughorn it solidified his suspicions.
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As for the answer to the original question, I imagine that all the snitches are kept after the matches.
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^^same here
even i think all snitches are kept...
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| They didn't keep all the snitches so well. James stole one and Harry never returned the snitch he took because he was too busy in fighting with Draco. |
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I don't think they kept all the snitches. If they do, they must not keep a very good eye on them... or maybe they get rid of them atthe end of the season. I think DD purposely kept that one... just in case he needed to give Harry something.
Also, we don't know where James got that snitch from, it could have been one of his own.
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having already heard the prophecy a long time ago, dumbledore knew there was something about harry so he thought it best to keep that snitch in case he needed it
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Also, we don't know where James got that snitch from, it could have been one of his own. |
Oh! How could it possibly be that? James said he had nicked it. |
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^ too true gin 
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Also, we don't know where James got that snitch from, it could have been one of his own. |
Oh! How could it possibly be that? James said he had nicked it. |
He said he nicked it, but we don't know to what extent... it could have happened at anytime from anyone. And we don't know the how true his words are. He could have "nicked it" from his father for all we know. or he could have done what Harry accidentally did in OotP and just held on to it after a game.
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| Posted: March 17, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Also, we don't know where James got that snitch from, it could have been one of his own. |
Oh! How could it possibly be that? James said he had nicked it. |
He said he nicked it, but we don't know to what extent... it could have happened at anytime from anyone. And we don't know the how true his words are. He could have "nicked it" from his father for all we know. or he could have done what Harry accidentally did in OotP and just held on to it after a game. |
Well, he was the chaser, so I doubt the last idea. Of course, he could have just went into the quidditch supplies and nicked it before it was ever actually used in a game.
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^ yeah that would be so james
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Also, we don't know where James got that snitch from, it could have been one of his own. |
Oh! How could it possibly be that? James said he had nicked it. |
He said he nicked it, but we don't know to what extent... it could have happened at anytime from anyone. And we don't know the how true his words are. He could have "nicked it" from his father for all we know. or he could have done what Harry accidentally did in OotP and just held on to it after a game. |
Well, he was the chaser, so I doubt the last idea. Of course, he could have just went into the quidditch supplies and nicked it before it was ever actually used in a game. |
I know he wasn't the seeker, but he could have still held on to it after he was caught.
But, yeah, i do like the idea thathe went in and got an unused snitch. That sounds like something he would do.
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Well, it doesn't seem like it was practice at all for the seeker to keep the snitch, so they were probably kept/disposed of at the end of the year (along with some massive cleaning of the castle). Though, if one was missing, for the most part, no one would care. Since the snitch somehow melds to the first person that touches it, a new one is always needed for each match.
As far as DD knowing, I don't think so. But, he knew Harry was special when he showed up. So, knowing that and that about the snitches, it would make sense for him to keep it, just in case. He had to know at some point, he might need to get something to Harry. So, he likely didn't know what, but knew it was something.
Haven't you ever seen something in your basement, and kept it without knowing why (it might be useful one day). All of a sudden, one day, you need something exactly like it, and you seem like you had some knowledge that this was coming. |
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I was actually thinking that it would be kind of sweet for Hogwarts to keep all of the snitches and give each seeker all of the snitches that he ever caught in a display at graduation. Awww . . . I would cry.
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lol ur so sweet <3
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I had a sort of speculation that Dumbledore did know about all of what happened and what was to happen. You can never be too sure, though, can you? There are loop-holes in just about every situation, you just have to look hard enough. I think Dumbledore, being as ferociously smart and wise as he is, knew something about what was going on. I mean, I heard in one interview with J.K. Rowling that the day that Dumbledore hired Trelawney as Divination professor, she let him in on a very important, very true prophecy. The one in which we read and saw in OotP. So maybe Dumbledore had a little faith in Trelawney and hired her because he found out something that could potentially help him and Harry in the future. And it did, although Dumbledore's fate was a lot less than wonderful. He was still able to supply this information to Harry and Harry was able to...
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