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PostPosted: August 31, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: JK Forshadowing what Happens at the end of Harry Potter DH!! Reply with quote

I found this at the end of the COS There are Spoilers here so be cautious.

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On Page 333 in the COS there is a Quote that Harry asks Dumbledore a question after he tells him that Voldemort Transferred some of his powers to him.

"Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?" Harry Said Thunderstruck
Dumbledore responds "It certainly seems so."

And that is pretty much what happens if my memory serves me correct because he was a Horcrux.



I found this interesting thought i should share this. Also it shows how much JK planned ahead. What do you think?
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PostPosted: August 31, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I guess it did foreshadow the
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horcrux

thing. I just thought when I read the book that Voldemort had been taken surprise by a powerful enchantment, and didn't have protection against it.. and it caused him to transfer some of his powers to Harry. Apparently there was more to it.
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PostPosted: September 3, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that piece is a great example of foreshadowing.
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PostPosted: October 13, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definetly agree, that was foreshadowing. More people should have thought about that when making predictions for the 7th book.
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PostPosted: October 23, 2007 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that is..

She said she had the last chapter written of DH when she started the first book.. although i'm sure she revised it.. but she knew what was going to happen.. how on earth did she keep all that secret for over 10 years of so.. Shocked
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PostPosted: November 11, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NimbusKeeper wrote:
I definetly agree, that was foreshadowing. More people should have thought about that when making predictions for the 7th book.


i completely agree. if you were to predict the other horcruxes, during the middle of the DH, you would be able to think back and remember what dumbledore said and it would be obvious.
i never realized dumbledore mentioned this earlier in the books, til i reread the series again.
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PostPosted: December 2, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiendfyre wrote:
Yeah I guess it did foreshadow the
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horcrux

thing. I just thought when I read the book that Voldemort had been taken surprise by a powerful enchantment, and didn't have protection against it.. and it caused him to transfer some of his powers to Harry. Apparently there was more to it.


It's interesting how because she gave us one explenation for saying that, the transfer of powers, that we don't even think more into it after reading the sixth book about horcruxes.
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PostPosted: December 7, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, noted that too when i re-read it. it made me firmly believe in my theory that hp was a horcrux.
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PostPosted: February 25, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he said that I always assumed it would have great meaning later on. I never thought while reading DH that he was going to be one. But looking back, it makes sense
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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i read that, i just thought it explained how he had powers similar to voldermort. haha. i never linked the 2 together for some reason...
but ever since reading HBP i always thought the horcrux was harry.i dont know i guess you just have that feeling.
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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i remember...
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before DH came out..i used to argue with everyone who used to say harry was a horcrux.. i just count not belive it..when it was revealed.. simply due to the fact that horcrux could nt be made unintentionally.. but i was so so wrong... Confused


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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indian_gal wrote:
i remember...
Spoiler:

before DH came out..i used to argue with everyone who used to say harry was a horcrux.. i just count not belive it..when it was revealed.. simply due to the fact that horcrux could nt be made unintentionally.. but i was so so wrong... Confused



Jo actually said that Harry isn't technically a horcrux, since horcruxes cannot be made unintentionally. She said that she will explain it all in the Scottish Book.
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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ that is correct harry isnt really a horcrux, but it's a close thing

jo said in an interview that there was stuff you had to do to make a horcrux, which of course voldy didnt do with harry, he wasnt even aware that there was a part of his soul in harry


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PostPosted: March 17, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:
Indian_gal wrote:
i remember...
Spoiler:

before DH came out..i used to argue with everyone who used to say harry was a horcrux.. i just count not belive it..when it was revealed.. simply due to the fact that horcrux could nt be made unintentionally.. but i was so so wrong... Confused



Jo actually said that Harry isn't technically a horcrux, since horcruxes cannot be made unintentionally. She said that she will explain it all in the Scottish Book.



Try here...

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Transcript of Part 1 of PotterCast's JK Rowling Interview


MA:After we got back from Carnegie Hall, we brought back your message of "Harry is kind of not really a Horcrux." (SU: Oh, yeah.) And I don't want to dwell too long on Horcruxes, but I'd love to hear you talking about how he is or isn't, or wasn't.

JKR: Well, I'll tell you- do you know what? This will not end the discussion. (MA:Yeah.) (laughs) I know that, and you know that, but here is the thing: for convenience, I had Dumbledore say to Harry, "You were the Horcrux he never meant to make," but I think, by definition, a Horcrux has to be made intentionally. So because Voldemort never went through the grotesque process that I imagine creates a Horcrux with Harry, (SU: Mm-hm.) it was just that he had destabilized his soul so much that it split when he was hit by the backfiring curse. And so this part of it flies off, and attaches to the only living thing in the room. A part of it flees in the very-close-to-death limbo state that Voldemort then goes on and exists in. I suppose it's very close to being a Horcrux, but Harry did not become an evil object. He didn't have curses upon him that the other Horcruxes had. He himself was not contaminated by carrying this bit of parasitic soul. The only time he ever felt it stirring and moving was in Order of the Phoenix, when he himself goes through a very dark time. And there's a moment where he's looking at Dumbledore, and he feels something rear like a snake inside him, and of course, at those times, it's because the piece of soul inside him is feeding off his emotions. He's going through a dark time, and that piece of soul is enjoying it, and making its presence felt, but he doesn't know what he's feeling, of course. Also, I always imagine that the Sorting Hat detected the presence of that piece of soul (JN: Yeah!) when Harry first tried it on, because it's strongly tempted to put him in Slytherin. So that's how I see it. (JN: Wow.) Now, I know that won't end the debate, but I do think that the strict definition of "Horcrux," once I write the Scottish Book, will have to be given, (SU: Yeah.) (JN: Yes.) and that the definition will be that a receptacle is prepared by Dark Magic to become the receptacle of a fragmented piece of soul, and that that piece of soul was deliberately detached from the master soul to act as a future safeguard, or anchor, to life, and a safeguard against death. So that doesn't really clear anything up. Well, I think it- (JN: It does quite a bit.) It at least states what I believe,(MA laughs) but I don't think it's necessarily going to convince people who have a strong feeling one way or the other on the matter. You know what? That's been the case with most of Harry Potter. (JN laughs) I give my explanation, and it just fuels more debate.

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PostPosted: March 18, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
zengrenouille wrote:
Indian_gal wrote:
i remember...
Spoiler:

before DH came out..i used to argue with everyone who used to say harry was a horcrux.. i just count not belive it..when it was revealed.. simply due to the fact that horcrux could nt be made unintentionally.. but i was so so wrong... Confused



Jo actually said that Harry isn't technically a horcrux, since horcruxes cannot be made unintentionally. She said that she will explain it all in the Scottish Book.



Try here...

Spoiler:





Transcript of Part 1 of PotterCast's JK Rowling Interview


MA:After we got back from Carnegie Hall, we brought back your message of "Harry is kind of not really a Horcrux." (SU: Oh, yeah.) And I don't want to dwell too long on Horcruxes, but I'd love to hear you talking about how he is or isn't, or wasn't.

JKR: Well, I'll tell you- do you know what? This will not end the discussion. (MA:Yeah.) (laughs) I know that, and you know that, but here is the thing: for convenience, I had Dumbledore say to Harry, "You were the Horcrux he never meant to make," but I think, by definition, a Horcrux has to be made intentionally. So because Voldemort never went through the grotesque process that I imagine creates a Horcrux with Harry, (SU: Mm-hm.) it was just that he had destabilized his soul so much that it split when he was hit by the backfiring curse. And so this part of it flies off, and attaches to the only living thing in the room. A part of it flees in the very-close-to-death limbo state that Voldemort then goes on and exists in. I suppose it's very close to being a Horcrux, but Harry did not become an evil object. He didn't have curses upon him that the other Horcruxes had. He himself was not contaminated by carrying this bit of parasitic soul. The only time he ever felt it stirring and moving was in Order of the Phoenix, when he himself goes through a very dark time. And there's a moment where he's looking at Dumbledore, and he feels something rear like a snake inside him, and of course, at those times, it's because the piece of soul inside him is feeding off his emotions. He's going through a dark time, and that piece of soul is enjoying it, and making its presence felt, but he doesn't know what he's feeling, of course. Also, I always imagine that the Sorting Hat detected the presence of that piece of soul (JN: Yeah!) when Harry first tried it on, because it's strongly tempted to put him in Slytherin. So that's how I see it. (JN: Wow.) Now, I know that won't end the debate, but I do think that the strict definition of "Horcrux," once I write the Scottish Book, will have to be given, (SU: Yeah.) (JN: Yes.) and that the definition will be that a receptacle is prepared by Dark Magic to become the receptacle of a fragmented piece of soul, and that that piece of soul was deliberately detached from the master soul to act as a future safeguard, or anchor, to life, and a safeguard against death. So that doesn't really clear anything up. Well, I think it- (JN: It does quite a bit.) It at least states what I believe,(MA laughs) but I don't think it's necessarily going to convince people who have a strong feeling one way or the other on the matter. You know what? That's been the case with most of Harry Potter. (JN laughs) I give my explanation, and it just fuels more debate.

For more, click here.



Lol . . . Thanks. I knew where it was, but I was too lazy to go get it when I made that post.
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PostPosted: March 19, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha. dont worry we all get like that Smile
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PostPosted: April 24, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, knew it all along ever since i read the COS and that's really probably a spoiler but before the 7th book was released, it was just a theory for me but who knows?
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PostPosted: May 6, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well yeah, but people thought more power than soul
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PostPosted: May 30, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love forshadowing
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PostPosted: May 30, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you do like it?
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PostPosted: May 30, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isabelle Lestrange wrote:
you do like it?


Who doesn't love foreshadowing. I really love it when the author let's on with elusive clues. The things that those authors foreshadow pop into my head almost as elusively. It's kind of like when you have a word right on the tip of you tongue. It's like my brain will flirt with an idea, but losses it before I can wrap my thoughts around it. Then when the actual thing that was forshadowed is revealed, it is shocking -- but almost not shocking at the same time. It's a good feeling, but hard to explain.
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