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GinnyX
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The book says, "The laughter had not quite died from his face and his eyes widened in shock." So I guess there is time for the body to react, even if a little.
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
The book says, "The laughter had not quite died from his face and his eyes widened in shock." So I guess there is time for the body to react, even if a little.


It wasn't the AK, though. This is point I am driving at. He had time to respond after being hit by the curse, because the curse was not a killing curse.
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zengrenouille wrote:


I didn't ignore anything, nor did I repeat my previous statement. I responded to you accordingly.

She was most certainly close enough for her spell to kill. If it hits, it kills -- instantly.


All other successful Avada Kedavra curses in the series have been close to the target. This wasn't the case with Bellatrix and Sirius. I'm thinking the spell weakens with longer distances, giving the victim a few seconds more to live once struck.

It's a solid theory, given that J.K. Rowling didn't object to the scene. We know it was a killing curse too, as we can distinctly hear Bellatrix reciting the incantation off screen.

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Of course the veil is connected to death, unfortunately this was not explained in the movie, which is why they must have chosen to have Sirius get AKed before falling into the veil. This way, the audience that hasn't read the books realizes that he was in fact killed.


You have to be brain-damaged to not know Sirius was killed. The details were never stated explicitly in dialogue, but that's never mandatory as long as it's explained through other means... which it was, via everyone's reactions immediately afterward, and the finality by which all the characters treated it when returning to Hogwarts. Part of good writing and filmmaking is knowing not when to have exposition.

Book 5 was even a little quiet on the matter of the Veil.
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PostPosted: February 18, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salazar Slytherin wrote:
No, it was fine. You forgot to take into account two things: the distance she was standing from Sirius, and the possible implications of Sirius standing so close to the Veil. Even JK Rowling didn't voice concern over it. The Avada Kedavra obviously wasn't compromised to give us a decent scene.


Very true, I never even thought of that.
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PostPosted: March 12, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: To Kino Reply with quote

I know Harry and Luna can hear the voices in the arch and see the thestrials, but how come in the book Neville can but in the movie they don't really acknowledge him in those scenes?
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PostPosted: March 12, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: To Kino Reply with quote

Astella Deveraux wrote:
I know Harry and Luna can hear the voices in the arch and see the thestrials, but how come in the book Neville can but in the movie they don't really acknowledge him in those scenes?


The movies leave out a lot of stuff due to time constraints. In the book the only time we really hear about Neville and the thetrals in during hagrid's class. Since that scene was cut out, we didn't get to see Neville seeing the thestrals.
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