Again, it wasn't his son, it was Rose, who was his daughter. And I'm sure Draco was doing the same.
Oh! Yes, it's Rose. Thank you.
Still Draco is childish doesn't justify his action.
It was silly for Ron to tell Rose to beat Scorpius at tests, but it wasn't shocking or cringe-worthy. Itwasn't like he told Hugo to beat him up or anything. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at tests. That in itself is just Ron being silly and nothing that is supposed to be taken seriously. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
It was silly for Ron to tell Rose to beat Scorpius at tests, but it wasn't shocking or cringe-worthy. Itwasn't like he told Hugo to beat him up or anything. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at tests. That in itself is just Ron being silly and nothing that is supposed to be taken seriously.
Yeah! I bet Rose and Hugo never take their father's words seriously.
It was silly for Ron to tell Rose to beat Scorpius at tests, but it wasn't shocking or cringe-worthy. Itwasn't like he told Hugo to beat him up or anything. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at tests. That in itself is just Ron being silly and nothing that is supposed to be taken seriously.
Yeah! I bet Rose and Hugo never take their father's words seriously.
Erm, I'm sure when he's beig serious they take him seriously. But how boring if their father never told a joke.
Later on, Ginny tells James that he is "just like Ron." Do you also think she insulting her own son? _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
It was silly for Ron to tell Rose to beat Scorpius at tests, but it wasn't shocking or cringe-worthy. Itwasn't like he told Hugo to beat him up or anything. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at tests. That in itself is just Ron being silly and nothing that is supposed to be taken seriously.
Yeah! I bet Rose and Hugo never take their father's words seriously.
Erm, I'm sure when he's beig serious they take him seriously. But how boring if their father never told a joke.
Later on, Ginny tells James that he is "just like Ron." Do you also think she insulting her own son?
XD I hope not. _________________
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Erm, I'm sure when he's beig serious they take him seriously. But how boring if their father never told a joke.
Later on, Ginny tells James that he is "just like Ron." Do you also think she insulting her own son?
I hope she doesn't mean to insult Ron. There's a big age difference!!!
lol, see, that's what I mean. When Ron was James's age he did stuff like freak out about two people kissing. It's just the way he was. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
lol, see, that's what I mean. When Ron was James's age he did stuff like freak out about two people kissing. It's just the way he was.
He didn't freak out. He was just surprised because he didn't know they were seeing each other. Then he thought he got a big news to tell the adults.
And I hope James would be like Fred and George more than Ron. The twins are real funny people. They knew how to tell jokes or even performed practical jokes, but they were well-planned and never hurt their friends' feeling.
lol, see, that's what I mean. When Ron was James's age he did stuff like freak out about two people kissing. It's just the way he was.
He didn't freak out. He was just surprised because he didn't know they were seeing each other. Then he thought he got a big news to tell the adults.
And I hope James would be like Fred and George more than Ron. The twins are real funny people. They knew how to tell jokes or even performed practical jokes, but they were well-planned and never hurt their friends' feeling.
James's actions reminded Ginny of Ron. So what he did was similar to what Ron would have done, according to Ginny.
Fred and George are great, I love them.. but Ron is great, too. JKR has said that when Ron was at Hogwarts he was immature and not someone you should date, but then he finally grew up. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
James's actions reminded Ginny of Ron. So what he did was similar to what Ron would have done, according to Ginny.
Fred and George are great, I love them.. but Ron is great, too. JKR has said that when Ron was at Hogwarts he was immature and not someone you should date, but then he finally grew up.
I don't know whether he grew up in other aspect, but confunded the examiner because he couldn't past the driving exam, threatened the children with disinheritance and made them look solemn, turned the children against each other before they had even started school, told his daughter didn't get too friendly with Scorpius...
These aren't anything close to mature!
And the most important things is that I value love, friendship and people's feeling. I am not much into so-call funny guys like Ron, but I appreciate those people who always thoughtful, considerate and take other people's feeling into account.
I think you know Mother Theresa(died in 1997), don't you? She was great, not because she did a lot of great things, she was just a nun stayed in india. She looked after sick people like any other nuns did. She's great because she cared people's feeling when no body cared and that makes the world different.
I don't know whether he grew up in other aspect, but confunded the examiner because he couldn't past the driving exam, threatened the children with disinheritance and made them look solemn, turned the children against each other before they had even started school, told his daughter didn't get too friendly with Scorpius...
I am not going to say this again... Ron didn't say anything to Hugo about Scorpius. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at every test. I can only imagine what Fred and George would have said to their children, but how do you know that puking pastilles and nosebleed nougat wouldn't have been involved? You are making Ron out to be so horrible, when actually he is only human.
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I think you know Mother Theresa(died in 1997), don't you? She was great, not because she did a lot of great things, she was just a nun stayed in india. She looked after sick people like any other nuns did. She's great because she cared people's feeling when no body cared and that makes the world different.
I know who Mother Theresa is, but I have no idea why you brought her up. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
yeah it's very obvious that since it is in harry's point of view that they did have alone time together so we just didnt see the kiss
and what was being said earlier, yeah of course the way the book was layed out it was very obvious that hermione and ron were meant for each other, but I do thin Hermione and George would be very interesting to see... I could go for that _________________ ~*Mags*~
yeah it's very obvious that since it is in harry's point of view that they did have alone time together so we just didnt see the kiss
and what was being said earlier, yeah of course the way the book was layed out it was very obvious that hermione and ron were meant for each other, but I do thin Hermione and George would be very interesting to see... I could go for that
No. Not George and Hermione. George and GinnyX. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
I am not going to say this again... Ron didn't say anything to Hugo about Scorpius. All he did was tell Rose to beat him at every test. I can only imagine what Fred and George would have said to their children, but how do you know that puking pastilles and nosebleed nougat wouldn't have been involved? You are making Ron out to be so horrible, when actually he is only human.
I know who Mother Theresa is, but I have no idea why you brought her up.
I didn't make things up. You can check the book. Rowling really wrote them! It's Rowling who made up all these Ron things!!!
I didn't recall Fred and George used puking pastilles and nosebleed nougat to bully the junior students, or tried to hurt their lovers by snogging other innocent girls.
A few candies wouldn't hurt people's feeling but the way you treat people can do a lot of harm.
But Ron was not really a jerk. He was just an ordinary, reckless, egocentric teenager who cared no one's feeling but his own. He's no different from any other teenagers in every big and modern city. He was so common that I really can't find him attractive. Sorry to say that!!!
I didn't make things up. You can check the book. Rowling really wrote them! It's Rowling who made up all these Ron things!!!
Really wrote what?
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I didn't recall Fred and George used puking pastilles and nosebleed nougat to bully the junior students, or tried to hurt their lovers by snogging other innocent girls.
Well, we don't know they didn't, do we.
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A few candies wouldn't hurt people's feeling but the way you treat people can do a lot of harm.
A fw candies could have killed someone. Remember what happened when they gave the nosebleed nougat to Katie Bell? She almost bled to death. It was their products that allowed the Death eaters to sneak into Hogwarts in the first place in HBP. And it was their Love Potion that caused Ron to punch Harry and almost resulted in Ron's death. They actually sold Love Potions, to mess aorund with people emotions. How is that not harmful?
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But Ron was not really a jerk. He was just an ordinary, reckless, egocentric teenager who cared no one's feeling but his own. He's no different from any other teenagers in every big and modern city. He was so common that I really can't find him attractive. Sorry to say that!!!
Common? You think everything he did was common? He went after the Sorcerer's Stone and sacrificed himself. He went down to the Chamber of Secrets to rescue his sister and into the Forest to save Hermione. He went into teh Ministry of Magic to rescue Sirius and battled Death Eaters over and over again. There is nothing common abotu that. You said he was an "egocentric teenager" but their wasn't one thing egocentric about him, even as a teenager. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
C: confunded the examiner because he couldn't past the driving exam, threatened the children with disinheritance and made them look solemn, turned the children against each other before they had even started school, told his daughter didn't get too friendly with Scorpius
Gin: Well, we don't know they didn't, do we.
C: Gosh. I don’t believe this conversation is happening. I based on the book and you based on your own imagination instead of Rowlings'. Please write another book for Weasleys. I’m looking forward to it. I want to see whether yours can become a bestseller.
Gin: Remember what happened when they gave the nosebleed nougat to Katie Bell? She almost bled to death. It was their products that allowed the Death eaters to sneak into Hogwarts in the first place in HBP.
C: Sorry, I have no recollection. Which chapter?
Gin: And it was their Love Potion that caused Ron to punch Harry and almost resulted in Ron's death. They actually sold Love Potions, to mess aorund with people emotions. How is that not harmful?
C: They sold potion to their customers. Their customers mess around people’s emotions. At least they didn’t try to hurt their love ones by snogging other girls.
Gin: Common? You think everything he did was common? He went after the Sorcerer's Stone and sacrificed himself. He went down to the Chamber of Secrets to rescue his sister and into the Forest to save Hermione. He went into teh Ministry of Magic to rescue Sirius and battled Death Eaters over and over again. There is nothing common abotu that. You said he was an "egocentric teenager" but their wasn't one thing egocentric about him, even as a teenager.
C: So what? What Potter, DD and OotP did even greater than he did.
Ron did some great things but they didn’t make him become a caring and an agreeable person. Egocentric didn’t mean he didn’t want to be famous and got some achievement, it meant he didn’t care for other people’s feeling. He said mean things to make Hermione cry in PS. He quarreled with Hermione in POA and never apologized. He was jealous of Harry just because he could enter the competition. He was an abusive prefect, He tried to get back to Hermione by snogging another innocent girl…
These are the common things what many teenagers do. And I bet these must be the reasons why they admire him because they think a jerk can be excuse if he did some great things, say, win a prize in a competition, become famous, make lots of money, get a Doctor degree, run a big company like Bill Gates… Then you don’t need to care for people’s feeling. They have to flatter you no matter how mean or rude you are! That’s their problem and that’s what I call pathetic.
confunded the examiner because he couldn't past the driving exam, threatened the children with disinheritance and made them look solemn, turned the children against each other before they had even started school, told his daughter didn't get too friendly with Scorpius
Everyone else seems to be okay with Ron saying those things, but for some reason you seem to hate him. That's your opinion.
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Gosh. I don’t believe this conversation is happening. I based on the book and you based on your own imagination instead of Rowlings'. Please write another book for Weasleys. I’m looking forward to it. I want to see whether yours can become a bestseller.
I'm basing everything on facts, you're basing everything on opinion.
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Sorry, I have no recollection. Which chapter?
OotP Ch14, pg 292 (US paperback ed)
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They sold potion to their customers. Their customers mess around people’s emotions. At least they didn’t try to hurt their love ones by snogging other girls.
The twins were teh ones that provided the means in teh first place.
Ron didn't snog Lavender just to mess around with Hermione's emotions, he was angry at her and hurting from what Ginny had said to him. Hermione was the one who asked out McLaggen for the sole purpose of makingRon jealous and no other reason.
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So what? What Potter, DD and OotP did even greater than he did.
My point still remains that he isn't common.
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Ron did some great things but they didn’t make him become a caring and an agreeable person. Egocentric didn’t mean he didn’t want to be famous and got some achievement, it meant he didn’t care for other people’s feeling. He said mean things to make Hermione cry in PS. He quarreled with Hermione in POA and never apologized. He was jealous of Harry just because he could enter the competition. He was an abusive prefect, He tried to get back to Hermione by snogging another innocent girl…
He made ammends with Hermione. And it wasn't as if the others didn't agree with him. Harry never aplogized for quarreling with Hermione, either. Ron was only human, and he made amends with Harry, too. And again, he didn't snog Lavender just to get back at Hermione. What Hermione did was worse, in my opinion. Ron couldn't even break up with Lavender because he felt to bad hurting her feelings.
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These are the common things what many teenagers do. And I bet these must be the reasons why they admire him because they think a jerk can be excuse if he did some great things, say, win a prize in a competition, become famous, make lots of money, get a Doctor degree, run a big company like Bill Gates… Then you don’t need to care for people’s feeling. They have to flatter you no matter how mean or rude you are! That’s their problem and that’s what I call pathetic.
My goodness, were you ever a teenager who made mistakes? Or were you and your friends extraordinarily perfect? Because so many people see Ron as a very human, realistic character with flaws and yous ee him as some sort of evil concotion from the wrongside of JKR's imagination. I am so baffled how someone can not forgive another person for mistakes they made and expect them to only remain, as you call him, a "common teenager." _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
Gin: Everyone else seems to be okay with Ron saying those things, but for some reason you seem to hate him. That's your opinion.
C: You really have a very good sense of humour. Majority seems to be ok and so I’m not allowed to have my own opinion. Do you mean I’m a minor? ........I swear I'm not underage!!!!
You said he grew up from childish behavior but I don’t think so! He was a grown up man, a father of 2 children. He had an exclusive privilege of affecting his children in an emotional way. Turning his daughter against other boy is a very mean and bad thing to do, not just childish. But being childish is not the main reason I don’t like him. I just don’t want him there too much because he was so annoying. I don’t like him because he was always mean and not caring about other people’s feeling. There were too much Ron things all over the Harry Potter books. These books were supposed to talk about the story of Harry Potter, not Ron’s snogging affair. I prefer read more parts of Neville. He was a real loyal friend to Harry. He always had faith in Harry even after he “died”. He killed the snake as Harry told him to. He always strived for the best because he wanted to make his granny happy.
Gin: I'm basing everything on facts, you're basing everything on opinion.
C: Come on, that’s only your opinion and you still, said you are basing everything on facts.
If the twins really hurt their girl friends or bullied the junior, why didn’t Rowlings mentioned that????? Are you implying that they did but Rowlings didn't know?
Gin: The twins were teh ones that provided the means in teh first place.
Ron didn't snog Lavender just to mess around with Hermione's emotions, he was angry at her and hurting from what Ginny had said to him.
C: Then please kindly tell me why Ron snogged Lavender?
Gin: Hermione was the one who asked out McLaggen for the sole purpose of makingRon jealous and no other reason.
C: Wow! Just because Ron didn’t date Hermione, then Hermione had to become a nun and spent the rest of her life in a convent in order to show Ron that she didn't want to make him jealous. Big theory!
And I do want to know why Ron would bother to be jealous. He’d already got a lover!!!!!
Gin: My point still remains that he isn't common.
C: My point is he did something isn’t common didn’t make him not a jerk. As I told you before, Mother Theresa was great, not because she killed a monster, earned a lot of fund or developed a drug for curing AIDS, but because she loved and cared for other people.
Gin: He made ammends with Hermione. And it wasn't as if the others didn't agree with him. Harry never aplogized for quarreling with Hermione, either. Ron was only human, and he made amends with Harry, too. And again, he didn't snog Lavender just to get back at Hermione. What Hermione did was worse, in my opinion. Ron couldn't even break up with Lavender because he felt to bad hurting her feelings.
C: So what’s your point? Hermione never apologized for quarreling with Harry either. Nobody requires Anyone to be a perfect human being but many people DO CARE FOR other people’s feeling even they are in great distress.
Gin: My goodness, were you ever a teenager who made mistakes? Or were you and your friends extraordinarily perfect? Because so many people see Ron as a very human, realistic character with flaws and yous ee him as some sort of evil concotion from the wrongside of JKR's imagination. I am so baffled how someone can not forgive another person for mistakes they made and expect them to only remain, as you call him, a "common teenager."
C: Thank God! You must be a SAINT! You have an extremely kind and loving heart because you must like hanging out with friends who don’t care about your feeling even if they are supposed to grow up from it.
Sorry! I’m the one with flaw cause I run away from them. I don’t want to get hurt. I always avoid those kind of jerks!!!!!!
C: Then please kindly tell me why Ron snogged Lavender?[/quotes]
Because he was upset about what Ginny said and how she made fun of him.
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C: Wow! Just because Ron didn’t date Hermione, then Hermione had to become a nun and spent the rest of her life in a convent in order to show Ron that she didn't want to make him jealous. Big theory!
She only asked McLaggen out to make Ron jealous. Period. She could have asked Neville to attend the party with her, she could even have gone solo. But she purposely chose McLaaggen because she knew it would bother Ron.
HBP ch 15, pg 317 (US ed)
"I thought he'd annoy Ron most," said Hermione dispassionately. "I debated for a while about Zacharias Smith, but I thought, on the whole - "
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And I do want to know why Ron would bother to be jealous. He’d already got a lover!!!!!
He loved Hermione, not Lavender. But he was angry with her beacuse of what she said about how she thought he only saved those goals because of the Felix Felicis.
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C: My point is he did something isn’t common didn’t make him not a jerk. As I told you before, Mother Theresa was great, not because she killed a monster, earned a lot of fund or developed a drug for curing AIDS, but because she loved and cared for other people.
Could we leave poor Mother Theresa out of this? She was a great women and no one can compare to her. Comparing someone to her is absolutely absurd. Not even Neville or Hermione compares to her.
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C: So what’s your point? Hermione never apologized for quarreling with Harry either. Nobody requires Anyone to be a perfect human being but many people DO CARE FOR other people’s feeling even they are in great distress.
My point? you brought up the wole fighting thing in the first place, didn't you?
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C: Thank God! You must be a SAINT! You have an extremely kind and loving heart because you must like hanging out with friends who don’t care about your feeling even if they are supposed to grow up from it.
Sorry! I’m the one with flaw cause I run away from them. I don’t want to get hurt. I always avoid those kind of jerks!!!!!!
Yeah, I'm a regular Mother Theresa.
I accept people for who they are, not what they should be. _________________ Breathing is optional. Look, Bella, look.
Cleo . . . Where are you from? Just out of curiosity, is English your first language? I'm pretty sure you've told us where you're from before, but I can't remember.
I just wanted to let you know, that you sound really hippocritical (I know I spelled that wrong . . . nobody say a word about it!) You are sayings that it's OK for Ron to date some one just to make Ron jealous, but it's not OK for Hermione. Double standard much? On top of that, Ginny is right, making Hermione jealous was NOT his soul purpose. Ginny embarrassed him when she said that he was inexperienced and never snogged any one. He didn't like being showed up by hs little sister. He was not wrong to feel this way. He had been showed up by all of his older brothers and his two best friends his whole entire life. Now his little sister was turning out to be more experienced than him? Any one would have felt to pressure to prove himself.
Also, you are completely taking what Ron says jokingly ou of context. When he was telling the kids that he would disinherit them, he was completely joking. They were nervous, and he was trying to relieve the tension. It is unfair to say that his wolds made them solemn when they were nervous before he ever opened his mouth.
Ron was not mean throughout the entire series. He was sometimes a jerk, but he didn't intend to be. Also, he always felt guilty when he hurt peoples' feelings. Ron was the comic relief of the series. He was laid back and fun. He may have been a bit blunt and subtlety was not his forte, but every on has flaws. Ron isn't the only one who has personality flaws. Look at Harry. He's arrogant . . . even Jo admitted to that. Arrogance is way worse that ignorance to subtlety. Hermione got her jollies off by doing better than every body on tests. That wasn't nice.
Ron was a common person who was put into very uncommon circumstances, and he proved himself to be just as great as Harry and Dumbledore! Just because Harry was forced into worse situations than the others doesn't make him better than the others. Harry sacrificed himself on behalf of the world. Ron did something much greater in the first book. He sacrificed himself on behalf of Harry -- one person. He could have very well been killed in that chess match. It was extremely dangerous. To show greatness like that at eleven is unsurpassable,
Also, Ginny is right about the falling-outs of people in the books. Every one makes mistakes. We just have to forgive the people whom we love, because one day we might need that same forgiveness. Hermione was done rude things to Ron before, and like Gin said she never came back begging for forgiveness. Ron wasn't the type not to forgive, rather he would just act as if the offender never did anything to bother him afterwards. That is why the situations when he needed to fogive others were overlooked.
You need to give the guy a break. You have mad hate for Ron. You should take that out on some one like Umbridge or Voldemort. _________________
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