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halfbloodprincess
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 Posted: May 11, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: The Boy Who Lived - some questions we want answered |
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1. Where was Dumbledore?
2. Where Was Lupin?
3. Where were Hagrid and baby Harry?
4. How did Dumbledore know what happened to James and Lily?
5. Was there anyone else in the room/ house when Voldie killed the Potters?
- do you have any theories on these questions?
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Arwen
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| Posted: May 15, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Well I suppose Dumbledore and the rest of the Muggle community knew about the attack because there would have been a dark mark over the house.
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: May 15, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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when was the dark mark cast? before voldemort killed or after he killed? if its before, fine. but if its after... then he couldnt have made the dark mark sign. perhaps pettigrew did it...
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| Posted: June 3, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| ^We shouldassume it was before. |
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: June 4, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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maybe another death eater did it? pettigrew?
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| Posted: June 14, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Boy Who Lived - some questions we want answered |
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
1. Where was Dumbledore?
2. Where Was Lupin?
3. Where were Hagrid and baby Harry?
4. How did Dumbledore know what happened to James and Lily?
5. Was there anyone else in the room/ house when Voldie killed the Potters?
- do you have any theories on these questions? |
2. Dunno
3. When? Hagrid went to the house and taken Harry himself.
4. Dark mark.
5. Well we are told that Voldemort killed James and Lily, and wanted to make a 'clean' job and thats why he tried to kill Harry. So I'm guessing not. |
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| Posted: June 14, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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1. Dumbledore was probably at Hogwarts or somewhere when he got the news from someone in the Order.
2. What would Lupin have to do with anything? He could be a werewolf at this time.
3. Hagrid went and got Harry on Dumbledore's orders, and he took Sirius's bike and flew it to Harry's house.
4. Someone from the order was probably close by, since they knew something was going to happen.
5. I doubt it. If they were someone good, they would have killed Voldemort before he could kill James or Lily. If they were someone bad, it doesn't really make a difference. Harry knows who is on what side, except for maybe Snape. |
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: June 15, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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- no i meant from the time voldie was vanquished until harry was delivered to petunia
- well maybe lupin was a werewolf... but youre only a werewolf during the full moon. what happened tuesday morning, while everyone was celebrating the death of volide?
- did going to godric's hollow and privet drive take an entire day? why didnt dd just make a portkey to make things faster?
- possible
- might be worth it to find out though.
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| Posted: June 15, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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-He probably had a lot to do with. He was probably at the Ministry like everyone else probably was, trying to find out the exact details before he went to the Dursley's.
-I still don't get why it matters what Lupin was doing. He might have been the one in the Order watching the house. We know he wasn't with Sirius. Sirius was after Wormtail.
-Because Portkeys are illegal without the permission of the Ministry. I don't think Dumbledore saw the need to make one when hagrid could go get Harry. And I am guessing that there is more to a portkey than just making it and it will take you wherever.
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: June 15, 2007 10:55 am Post subject: |
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- maybe... but what would the ministry know... they werent at the scene of the crime
- because he didnt even bother to check on harry
- well he could have gotten the minstry's permission. it might be dangerous to just leave harry with hagrid. what if they were ambushed by people like bella?
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| Posted: June 15, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
- no i meant from the time voldie was vanquished until harry was delivered to petunia
- did going to godric's hollow and privet drive take an entire day? why didnt dd just make a portkey to make things faster? |
- He was at all the parties. You know that at the very start when he meets McGonagal outside Privet drive.
- Well for that to work you'd need someone at privet drive wouldn't you? And Hargids not aloud to do magic... It'd have been illegal to have set it up, and a bit dangerous since Harry is a baby. |
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: June 16, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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well he could have asked another member to accompany them and make a portkey.
anyway, dumbledore is partying while harry potter is in danger? thats something... 
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| Posted: June 16, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't Sirius lend his 'magical' motorbike to Hagrid or something?
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| Posted: June 16, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
- maybe... but what would the ministry know... they werent at the scene of the crime
- because he didnt even bother to check on harry
- well he could have gotten the minstry's permission. it might be dangerous to just leave harry with hagrid. what if they were ambushed by people like bella? |
-Well, Dumbledore could have been at parties. I am actually guessing that he was making plans for Harry to be moved to his Aunt's house. He was probably thinking about what he was deciding to do.
-Probably because he knew that Dumbledore was going to deal with it.
-The DE probably fled into hiding, even Bella. Or, they may not even have known yet. And Hagrid could have dealt with some DE and gotten past them. I think the DE didn't really know about Voldemort's plans on what he was doing. They may have known bits and pieces, but I don't think they would have had time to react. |
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halfbloodprincess
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theyd definitely be after harry because he was the reason why their master was vanquished.
its not safe to leave harry to hagrid. i think mcgnagall had a poit. why would dd entrust harry with hagrid. yeah hagrid is rave and all but bella is more powerful
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| Posted: June 17, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| -I doubt it. They probably didn't even have time to react they were so shocked. They thought Voldemort was the most powerful wizard ever. And they prob. didn't want to go after Harry since what he did to Voldemort. And they prob. went into hiding, because the first thing the Ministry would do was go after the DE. |
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halfbloodprincess
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| Posted: June 18, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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they probably thought that going after harry would reverse events. i wouldnt put it past them to ambush hagrid and kill harry.
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| Posted: June 18, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| i would put it past them. we aren't going to get anywhere, so lets stop talking about this subject. |
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spells bounce off hagrid...they couldn't do anything to them...and he could pound them into the ground. Seems safe to me.
I think that when the ak curse backfired...well Hagrid said he pulled Harry out of the wreckage. I think once the house is destroyed, the charm goes with it.
Perhaps Snape was at Godric's Hollow, and told Dumbledore all that had happened. Maybe he was even under James' invisibility cloak...DD had given it to him...thats why dumbledore had it. they wanted snape to tail voldemort as he tried to kill the potters (after snape turned sides) so james let dd have it to give to snape. I say the cloak because didn't jk oversee the death scene in SS/PS movie? And voldy appeared to be alone...emphasis on appeared. Heh crazy theory, not all worked out yet. Hmmm.
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