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Why was Wormtail classified a "Gryffindor"?
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Rhyme
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PostPosted: August 28, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

remember snapes memory of the train ride? where james said he wanted to be in gryffindor where the brave dwell? and snape says 'well, if youd rather be brave than smart..." and sirius says 'and which will you be in, seeing as youre neither?'

that pretty much fits wormtail, he didnt fit any of the houses so he just asked to be in gryffindor with his new cool friends...
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PostPosted: August 28, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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remember snapes memory of the train ride? where james said he wanted to be in gryffindor where the brave dwell? and snape says 'well, if youd rather be brave than smart..." and sirius says 'and which will you be in, seeing as youre neither?'

that pretty much fits wormtail, he didnt fit any of the houses so he just asked to be in gryffindor with his new cool friends...


Well thats common among young students, debating on the relative merits of each house and giving their opinions and choices about where they want to go but that still does not show that students had any sort of control over the sorting process. If every student just had to wish to be in a house, the whole point of the sorting hat would be moot.
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PostPosted: August 29, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading HPDH, I believe the sorting hat kind of made a mistake. Peter should have been in slytherin, and Snape in Gryffindor. I'm thinking that Snape asked to be in Slytherin, like Harry asked to be in Gryffindor. And the sorting hat complied. It probably put Pettigrew in Gryffindor to compensate for the fact that the sorting hat put Snape in slytherin instead of Gryffindor.
They are just my theories, anyone feel free to expand on them if you'd like.
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PostPosted: August 31, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People change, you know? Maybe Peter was a good guy at first, but with the war he became terrified and he forgot his principles.

Anyway, I think JK wanted us to know that all the evils don´t belong to Slytherin, just like all the braves are not in Gryffindor. The Sorting Hat take students´opinions into account, too... and you can be fearful but do brave things all the same.

Peter was not specially ambitious, smart or hard-working. But I think he was kinda loyal when he was young, because he was prone to idolize people around him.
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PostPosted: September 4, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should of been in Slytherin As Hagris said; "Theres so wizard that gone bad, that want' sorted in Slytherin."
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PostPosted: January 28, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the same question like why Snape is in Slytherin not Gryffindor. he is strong, brave, and finnally loyal. so why? maybe, as DUmbledor said it is not good to classify students so soon. they will change a lot.
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PostPosted: January 28, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe he made friends with one of the 3 other marauders before getting to hogwarts and then wished really hard to get into gryfindor after some of them was chosen there

harry chose not to go to slytherin so maybe that's what happened?


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the same question like why Snape is in Slytherin not Gryffindor


he could have been in gryfindor cause he was always brave, but he was really obsessed with dark arts so i think he was suited better at slytherin

also it sounds as though he wanted to be in slytherin judging by book 7, so he probably also wished it to the sorting hat
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PostPosted: February 27, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always wondered this exact same thing.
He would have gone in Slytherin because he's not brave AT ALL. But the other Marauders wouldn't have been friends with him if he got put in Slytherin. I think it was just for the plot...
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He chose to be in Gryffindor because the Dark Lord ordered him...I think.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sarmadhashmi wrote:
He chose to be in Gryffindor because the Dark Lord ordered him...I think.


wormtail didnt know voldemort when he was 11
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bery26 wrote:
sarmadhashmi wrote:
He chose to be in Gryffindor because the Dark Lord ordered him...I think.


wormtail didnt know voldemort when he was 11


Actually, Voldemort rose to power most likely in c.1970. Wormtail was sorted in 1971. It is possible that Wormtail did have influence over which House he chose. I'm not saying I agree with that theory, only that it is an interesting one.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i doubt it very much, why would voldy care for an 11 year old kid who's apparently quite untalented?
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i doubt it very much, why would voldy care for an 11 year old kid who's apparently quite untalented?


It could have been his parent's influence that got him to choose his House, whether for right or wrong reasons.
And if it seems absurd that Voldy would rely on an 11 year old, well... it certainly won't seem absurd when Wormtail becomes one of his most important followers.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

then you're talking about voldy using a 20 year old man rather than a 11 year old kid, there's a difference, the first one isnt ridiculous the second one is
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Palooooza wrote:
Maybe he didn't fit in any of the other categories?


People who don't fit into any other catagories are placed in hufflepuff
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interficio wrote:
Palooooza wrote:
Maybe he didn't fit in any of the other categories?


People who don't fit into any other catagories are placed in hufflepuff


That is completely untrue. Hufflepuffs are students who are loyal and willing to work hard. They are not the "left overs."
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Hufflepuffs are not the left overs! I repeat are NOT THE LEFT OVERS! Hufflepuffs are Just and Loyal and they are not the left overs!
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
Interficio wrote:
Palooooza wrote:
Maybe he didn't fit in any of the other categories?


People who don't fit into any other catagories are placed in hufflepuff


That is completely untrue. Hufflepuffs are students who are loyal and willing to work hard. They are not the "left overs."


Quote Helga Hufflepuff: I'll take the REST and treat them just the same.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Slytherins can be rbave as well as Gryffindors can be cowards..depends on the person the badge doesnt automatically make a person what the house stands for.

I beleive Peter wanted to be liked and looked after. Deep down hes sad..still Sirius thought Remus was a spy!! shows you cant judge books by covers.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interficio wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
Interficio wrote:
Palooooza wrote:
Maybe he didn't fit in any of the other categories?


People who don't fit into any other catagories are placed in hufflepuff


That is completely untrue. Hufflepuffs are students who are loyal and willing to work hard. They are not the "left overs."


Quote Helga Hufflepuff: I'll take the REST and treat them just the same.


Actually, the song goes

OotP
Said Hufflepuff, "I'll teach the lot
And treat them just the same."

Helga Hufflepuff didn't want to be selective about the students that attended Hogwarts. She would take them all as long as they were loyal to Hogwarts. She was fair.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Wikipedia, which is sort of accurate

Spoiler:

The Sorting Hat further describes her as "good Hufflepuff" or "sweet Hufflepuff". She does not appear to have applied particularly strict standards of selection to her house. Although in Goblet of Fire, she is stated as having considered “hard workers most worthy of admission,” she is elsewhere described as taking “all the rest” of the students after selection by her colleagues, and is quoted by the Sorting Hat as having said, “I’ll teach the lot, and treat them just the same.” This sets her apart from the other Founders, by making her an egalitarian.



Also I remember neville saying somewhere that he should be in hufflepuff because he has no special talent
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hufflepuffs are not the left overs. Hufflepuffs come from a breed of Glory. As the word 'Helga' means Glory. She wanted to treet everyone fairly and didnt want someone left out. Hufflepuffs are the Just and Loyal. Not the 'left overs'
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interficio wrote:
According to Wikipedia, which is sort of accurate

Spoiler:

The Sorting Hat further describes her as "good Hufflepuff" or "sweet Hufflepuff". She does not appear to have applied particularly strict standards of selection to her house. Although in Goblet of Fire, she is stated as having considered “hard workers most worthy of admission,” she is elsewhere described as taking “all the rest” of the students after selection by her colleagues, and is quoted by the Sorting Hat as having said, “I’ll teach the lot, and treat them just the same.” This sets her apart from the other Founders, by making her an egalitarian.



Also I remember neville saying somewhere that he should be in hufflepuff because he has no special talent


Wikipedia is edited by random people. Anyone, even Laura Mallory, is allowed to add things to that site.

And Neville never says that because he has no special talent. He says he is almost a squib, though.
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PostPosted: March 4, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh well maybe i interpreted it wrong, but thats the way it seems
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