what do you mean by weird?? I think it is pretty normal for people to be fixated on bad guys. Evil fascinates us, the unexplainable. I just think Snape is an awesome character. Just like Darth Vader,Gollum etc etc. But i think what makes me like Snape is that I believe he is misunderstood, left out I dont know. Made fun of. I just really identify with him. Maybe im at Slytherin at heart*Just Kidding* _________________
I can see the allure of slash, but I myself perfer more canon pairings. I think Harry/Ron is hot, lol. _________________ "For too long we have been taught to praise the wrong heroes, thieves planting flags and murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams." ~ Peter S. Beagle
Here's a link to a snape/harry slash fanart and fanfic page. I found it featured on somethingawful.com's awful link of the day.
http://individum.com/snarry/art/snaples.php _________________ "For too long we have been taught to praise the wrong heroes, thieves planting flags and murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams." ~ Peter S. Beagle
okay before I vote, what is exactly meant by a slash coupling? What is a cannon coupling? Maybe this is just a culture thing. _________________ You're just jealous cause the voices only talk to me!
i voted Draco/Harry they would be cute together, but its never going to happen
Omg, sorry to people who like him, but i absolutely hate Snape, and any pairing involving Snape, he is just... ew. Tonnes of people love him, but i dont, lol
I think Harry/Snape is pretty weird, its kinda obvious they hate each other. But ive heard of weirder pairings, can you believe i actually read a Neville/Whomping Willow fic? -shudder-
Oh, and slash is like a gay couple male/male, or female/female. Canon is whats in the book, like Harry/Ginny
Okay, now that I know what a slash couple is..... well now I can't really even vote. I can't even picture it. It's like picturing your parents or your grandparents having sex. ughhhh Maybe, Snape is a pedophile, then I could see him in an illicit relationship with Draco- the boy he favors so much. _________________ You're just jealous cause the voices only talk to me!
The thing i love most about slash is that it is never going to happen, thats what makes reading it so much fun bcause the author always has to put that extra spin on the story.
Who cares if it will happen or not, we can still have fun.
I am a Snarry and Drarry fan, Draco and Harry is sweet, and Snarry has so much angst! I know it is a bit....meh...
Yeah I can't really understand the pedophile stories, but some people make Harry or Draco older by the time they match up with Snape or Lucius or another older character. In those cases...well why not? Fan fiction after all.
JKR writes for kids and that is why many have suggested that 'gay' wizards do not seem to exist in her books. But really now, those same kids that read her books live in the REAL world and gay people DO exist and there is absolutely nothing the least bit negative about their existence. So poor excuse.
Extremely poor when you consider that she DOES put evil, venomous people in her book who kill, maim, torture, etc. Certainly there are people who in real life are like that as well and we don't want our children exposed to them. I suppose the excuse is that she can kill them off.
Ah well, one day I figure the world will evolve into a place of true equality and lack of prejudice. maybe in the year 5040...but at least that will be 'one day'.
It's not a about prejudice. It's about being socially responisble. Do we really want to confuse our children with the question of sexuality when they are still pre-teens and teens.
There is a reason why I think all Slash fiction is dangerous. Not just the same sex one. Like Hermione/Snape and all. But I find Harry/ Snape, Harry/ Voldemort, Hermione/ Voldemort, Ginny/ Voldemort, Cho/Voldemort, I have even seen Hermione/Greyback.
These fanfcitons get me worried about pedofiles. If a pedofile wants to seduce a child they use things that they know children would be interested in. So by writng slash fiction your handing them amunition. I'm jst seeing some nasy man calling a little boy inot his lair and asking him to do things like "touch my penis" and the boy knows it worng. So the pedofile knowing this kid is a potter fan shows him some fanfiction where Snape and Harry have a sexual relationship to make the kid think it's okay. Then the next thing you know this man is having sex with this kid.
Another point about the same sex slash. Wouldn't this be telling teenage girls that it's okay to have sexual relations with a man who is years oler than you, while you are still at school. Isn't that justify stataory rape.
I was never more disgusted than seeing the greyback/ Hermione paring. Isn't it alarming enough that there are thousands of little girls who are sexually brutalised in the word everyday. My mind goes back to the post tsunami humanitairian efforts in south-east Asia. Do you guys know that peopel whee kidnapping orphaned girls to sell them as sexslaves to rich men.
But for some reason people think it's okay to have a these sotries on the next, avilable for everyone to read and just stick a free speech sticker on it and it's all okay. Guess what it ain't okay.
This is a serious issue and I think the idea that people could find entertainment in picturing a grown man like Alan Rickman and a little girl ( and I say littel girl because she is just that) is not only sick but also disturbing.
I don't know the age of the people on this forum but I am 21 years old and I know a fair bit about child abuse and I know the tactics these adults who indend to inflict harm use and I know Slash fiction is dangerous.
I know some of you guys will say well the story has ratings for a reason. Well guess what. on Fanfiction.net you can read any story you want and your computer will not pick it up. It redirects you to other sites sometimes that have even more smutty material that children should not be reading. If you guys believe that young kids aren't rreading Slash fiction you guys are living in a bubble. Of course they are reading it.
Further reason why Slash is wrong. It confuses the sexual identity of young kids. I have no problem with people being gay. But I think people only truely discover they are gay in the twenties. Being gay is about your sexual identities I can't see why it is important to portray young kids as gay and have them having graphic sex. They are kids. Kids aren't supposed to be having sex.
If a child read that then they'll be thinking, well its okay for me to be with another boy. Let me see what anal is like and they might not even be gay. I know some of you will say; but in the fiction Harry and Draco are older. It doesn't matter. from the time a kids startes grow hair they start to see themselves as adults. they want to have thier first sexual experience. On the most part it will be limited to just touching but when you have characters in a pro-kid book doing all sorts of things that will make even me blush then they start to push the line on what is acceptable further.
They way I see it Jk is grown woman with kids of her own. She knows the world and the kind of people it has in the world. For all of you who think Slash fiction is harmless fun, well think again, it is quite dangerous.
Corrupting one of the purest piece of pop culture history just because you can is a crime against the children who turn to potter books as a means of inspiration.
I know people wil come down on me and say my post is inappropriate but so what. Do what you will. I think when It comes to Harry Potter itis very important that we keep it clean. If it was Big Love, the L Word or any one o those showtime and HBO shows that is adult programming that kids aren't really interested in, then sure. write all the slash fiction you want. But if there is even a slightest change that a kids would read it because it a pro-kid piece of work then I really don't like Slash.
Just giving you guys an eye-opener. _________________ Remember, Remember, the 5th of November
^As far as the pediophile thing goes, of course I agree. It's not entertaining, it's disturbing. As far as everything else goes, then I couldn't disagree more. And that is all I'm going to say about it for now.
Personally, I'm all about Harry/Draco. I didn't think I would be, but I read a few fanfics with them coupled... and I found myself liking them. And Sirius/Lupin, of course. _________________ ^made by Fiendfyre
I totally agree that the under-age fan fic couplings as related to sex as well as Older individuals with children - these have no place in an open forum on the net. I am not at all interested in reading those and I don't.
However, I do not see anything whatsoever wrong with people increasing Harry and his friend's ages in order to mate them with older individuals.
The point made about homosexuality was WAY OFF BASE. You are gravely mistaken if you think that most people only figure out they are gay in their twenties. TONS of individuals figure it out when they are still teenagers - even quite young teens. However, that does not make it appropriate to write about in an open forum. That includes heterosexual young couples as well. That should not be available.
There is potentially no way to stop kids from reading whatever they want. Only their parents can do it and while it is difficult to keep an eye on your child's surfing habits 24/7, you have to give it your best shot.
I personally don't think that they will be 'ruined for life' by reading slash stories if they are appropriate (older couples). It is out there in the world and something they are going to encounter sooner or later anyway. It is a natural part of our existence and the stories, if well written, may even help them to accept the idea that homosexuality is not a 'horrible or abberant form of life" I knew all about gays and lesbians before I was old enough to explore for myself and I didn't choose that way of life.
It is the same as stories about people running off and living off the land or becoming beach bums. We expose kids to many ideas that we don't particularly wish them to follow.
Worse, we expose them to bank robbers, evil dark lords, car thieves, maniac killers (like Halloween or Jason movies)... things we definitely don't wish for them to follow!
Again, parents should be the guides in as far as determining when their children are ready to explore sex, crime, evil, etc, in any form on the net.
When I say discover I didn't mean that you had a hunch. Do you see a lot of teenagers who are openly gay exploring their sexuality (maybe 18 and 19) but that does not happen much in high school. Imagine queer as folk if you will. Does that happen much in Jr.High or high school. Nope. That sort of thing only happens late teens (18 for the earliest and 19) and early twenties.
I still don't think Hp fiction should include anything they won't show on the Disney Channel. It is imposssible for a parent to sit with a kid and read everything on the net with them. Most parents just but a filter and I know I have a filter and I can still get too see all those graphic slash fics on my computer. (but I'm 21 so it doesn't really matter) but not everyone is 21, some kids on the net are 9, 10, 11 and things like that. I can't see it as right that they should be reading slash.
I know people would say it's not our place to babysit anyone else's kids but I personally believe I am my brother's keeper. And if I could prevent one child from being confused into thinking it's okay for P. Snape to have a sexual relationship with Hermione or Harry then I will.
I write fanfics too but I always keep them clean.
I don't think Children she learn about homosexuality from the fanfiction stories that are one sided and glamorised. They need to hear about this from thier parents. lets give their parents a chance to tell them. Why are we shoving it down thier throats.
Again I have no problem with homosexuality. I just can't see how it can be an appropriate topic to mesh with HP: A children's book.
I found out about homosexualtity at my own speed. I didn't happen upon it on the internet. I had real life examples and a chance to get learn about ti form my aunt (who is my guardian). I think we as older people should give the younger generation the same right. _________________ Remember, Remember, the 5th of November
I respect your opinions. However I would recommend that you perhaps do a bit of research. The number of people who figure out that they are homosexual in Jr. High School would likely surprise you.
I don't know many kids who surf the net and discover homosexuality for the first time in their lives on the internet. It is a big world and so that has likely happened, but I would imagine it would be very rare.
There are too many popular TV shows that have gay characters for them not to have been exposed at a very early age. It is the same with sex between men and women...they find out about that too from TV mainly, but perhaps some on the net.
Homosexuality is not a disease or a negative form of life that kids need to be kept from knowing about at ANY age. While sex in general (between whoever) can wait to be viewed until a young person is mature enough to handle it, the fact that two people of the same sex might fall in love is a different matter. Keeping the fact that 2 people of the same sex can fall in love from children makes them look at it as something bad and perpetuates prejudice. But that has nothing to do with sex.
Sex on the net in all forms is something kids below a certain age should not see or read about, but that it is the job of the parents to ensure that they don't. If they can't keep an eye on their kids and they don't want them to view certain things, then they need to keep them off of the net altogether because society is not doing anything about it for them. And that is a fact, no matter how hard you and I might wish it were not.