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Hermione

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Posted: August 12, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject: Harry's Scar....A Possible Horcrux? |
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I was reading some theories that are around in the net, and I found one that kinda made sense ( many of them do, but that doesnt mean they are real) JK once said that the Harry's scar was really important (not because of its shape) it just is important. What if is a part of Voldermort's soul got trapped in the scar thus explaning why it always hurt when Voldie was around.
So the Horcruxes are:
1.Tom Riddles Diary (Gone)
2.Locket ( Assumed Gone)
3.Ring (Gone)
4.Hufflepuff Goblet
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I think im missing one.... Anyways JK has said that the last word would be Scar...so its meant to play an important role I guess. What if Harry Himself is a Horcrux and he has to die in order for Voldie to die....
Please share your thoughts:) _________________
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blade

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Posted: August 12, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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AAAAAAAA! I HAVE AN IDEA! AT THE END OF BOOK 7 HARRY WILL HAVE TO KILL HIM SELF IF THEIR IS A HORCRUX IN HIS SCAR! THEIR FOR BY KILLING HIM SELF ALSO KILLING VOLDEMORT! IT ALL MAKES SENCE NOW! AAAAAAA! BUT IF HARRY DIES THEN THE END WONT BE HAPPY AT ALL! SO JK WILL MAKE SACRIFICES TO MAKE IT HAPPY BELTRIX LESTRANGE WILL DIE DRAKO WILL DIE AND ALL THE BAD PEOPLE WILL DIE! AAAAAAAA! _________________ im here for speculation. |
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moonfisher

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Posted: August 14, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Hehe, my older sister lobbed that theory at me a few days ago. I think it's a very real possibility. Wouldn't that make a great twist? |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 14, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah! Maybe since the scar is a possible horcrux at the end it will disappear.( if harry survives)... _________________
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lilpotterprincess

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Posted: August 14, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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ahhh man.... id love for harry to lose the scar (if voldie dies and he lives somehow) but something inseide tells me that Harry may have to sop it too.... JK surely wouldnt kill of Harry after all this time would she?!!  _________________ *~*~ im so lost in a world i cannot join ~*~* |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 14, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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I dont think so, that would be really *Really* Extremely evil.
If she does, well ill probably burn the last book.
and write an angry letter which will probably be ignored.
She cant kill him off, trust me she cant.
To many fans... _________________
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Siddhu


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Posted: August 15, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| J.K Rowling has said that the last chapter of book 7 ends with the word 'scar'. Could this possibly mean, that it will disappear? |
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moonfisher

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Posted: August 15, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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If Harry himself is the horcrux, then he will probably have to die. But if just his scar is, then maybe he will find a way to remove it. What might that do, though? Severing the connection from Voldie, the symbol of his mother's protection. The more I think about it, the more I think this theory has a lot of merit. _________________ "For too long we have been taught to praise the wrong heroes, thieves planting flags and murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams." ~ Peter S. Beagle |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 15, 2005 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I really believe that the night Voldie tried to kill Harry he accidently severed his soul one last time and it is trapped in the scar. Maybe that would explain the sister wands? Is the scar the symbol of Lily's sacrifice for him? I thought it was part of his essence( it cannot go away if the scar goes away). _________________
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hengest

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Posted: August 16, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| i don't think this is possible because there is a spell you have to preform to severe your soul after murdering someone. there is no way voldemort would have been able to do it anyways if he tried to kill harry he would just be taking away that horcrux. |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 16, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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What if it was an accident? _________________
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hengest

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Posted: August 16, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| how could he accidently cast the spell for it |
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moonfisher

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Posted: August 16, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe he had some kind of object he was casting the spell into when he tried to kill Harry and it all backfired. _________________ "For too long we have been taught to praise the wrong heroes, thieves planting flags and murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams." ~ Peter S. Beagle |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 17, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I didnt mean he accidently casted the spell, but maybe something happened beyond his control. _________________
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hengest

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Posted: August 18, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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i just don't see this happening if you read up in this thread you all just point out that he will find a way to remove the scar dumbledore said in the PS that he will have that scar forever.
2: voldemort horcruxes have the ability to possess people if so why hasn't he tried to possess harry. |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 18, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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i just don't see this happening if you read up in this thread you all just point out that he will find a way to remove the scar dumbledore said in the PS that he will have that scar forever.
2: voldemort horcruxes have the ability to possess people if so why hasn't he tried to possess harry. |
1.I dont know if you are familiar with the term but in literature there is a thing thats called limited knowledge( thats not the name but it is exactly what it means) Like Albus said in HPHBP he can be wrong, he doesnt know. He is not looking for a way to remove the scar, that is not the point of the theory. It is that maybe the scar is a horcrux( thus explaining why Harry always felt close to Voldermort etc etc)
2.Maybe because Harry is too powerful or protected by love. Or it will bring him to his own downfall( both dying because they are so intertwined with each other) _________________
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hengest

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Posted: August 19, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| if harrys scar happens to be a horcrux tho there would be no way to remove it the body would have to be destroyed. |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 19, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think there are ways. I dont think he has to die, if this theory is right im sure JK will find a way around that. _________________
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moonfisher

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Posted: August 20, 2005 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Hengest, you asked why Voldemort hasn't tried to possess Harry, but he has. In the end of book 5, he tried to possess him in the ministry, but Harry's love drove him out. _________________ "For too long we have been taught to praise the wrong heroes, thieves planting flags and murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams." ~ Peter S. Beagle |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 20, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Good Point Moon! I forgot about that! Oh this theory is sounding good:) _________________
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jdezer

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Posted: August 22, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Nevel Longbottom could have been the main character in these books acording to the prophacy..... It was Voldie that chose Harry....If Voldie would have left all well enough alone Harry would be just Harry?...... Just for the argument maybe Harry is Voldies prison? Being the last horcrux he cannot posses.....the prison made of love and purity????? |
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lovell

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Posted: August 22, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: most problable |
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maybe harry is the last horcrux. there are supposed to be six. i think he is because, to do a h you must kill and his father was killed and then his mother who was protecting him.
7 has always been known as a magical number so when V had divided his soul into seven thats what caused something bad to happen to him. I know in almost everybook they said that he was trying to kill harry but if he was what object was he then going to put his soul into, wouldnt it have fell near the place harry was found.
however, if the person died would that neccersarilly mean the H died with it, i mean would it still be lain in the dead persons body!
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t_moz

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Posted: August 22, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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the only problem with the "harry as a horcrux" theory is that u have to perform a very complex spell/powerful bit of dark magic when creating a horcrux so i doubt he made harry a horcrux as why wud he try to destroy a part of himself??? unless theres some special way harry became a horcrux and voldemort didnt realise as that wud kinda explain why it hurt him when he attacked him as it would take more than avada kedavra to destroy a horcrux...altho we have no total proof that the green lights harry "remembers" were from the avada kedavra spell...they could have been from making harry or an object a horcrux possibly and this would have been painful as splitting your soul cant be the easiest of things or least painful but that doesnt explain y it destroyed voldemorts body i spose...
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hengest

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Posted: August 22, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Hengest, you asked why Voldemort hasn't tried to possess Harry, but he has. In the end of book 5, he tried to possess him in the ministry, but Harry's love drove him out. |
he tried to use his magic to posses him not a possible horcrux. |
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Hermione

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Posted: August 22, 2005 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Hengest:Harry=Horcrux: The same( That if is the theory is right)
I still think its a really cool idea i mean. It would be great like the last horcrux would be in the ultimate prision. Surrounded bylove and sacrifice... _________________
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