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RiddleisOurKing
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I just HOPE he comes back so I might be looking for excuses.
I think he's more resourceful than most and that his abilities might be able to help him come back from behind the Veil. I just think it's interesting we don't know what the Veil really is or what it truly represents yet, so I think I have to hold out hope.
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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quite right.. sorry about that
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HRH2013
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| i don't get why he deserves to come back...harry's parents deserve it more than him. i think Sirius would be proud he went down fighting dark wizards... |
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RiddleisOurKing
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe it has anything to do with who deserves it, i think Sirius is more likely to come back than any other character because as stated before, we don't know what the Veil is or what is beyond it and if it actually kills the person or just traps them.
We saw Dumbledore die from a curse, we know Lily and James did as well.
But while we are on the subject of who deserves it, why is Sirius' life any less than Lily or James'? After all he was completely innocent.
So I don't see that as an argument.
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| But Lily and James are more important to Harry. Would you rather have your godfather return from the dead or your parents you have never seen? |
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RiddleisOurKing
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not arguing it from Harry's point of view, I'm talking from a purely literary standpoint and what has been written in the books.
What Harry wants is irrelevant. I'm sure he wishes that Voldemort would just go away and he wouldn't have to fight him, doesn't mean it's going to happen.
All I'm saying is that if anyone does come back, the only plausible person it can be is Sirius. I'm not saying he will or won't, I'm just saying it seems he can be the only choice.
Other than that, I have no opinion on what Harry would want. I'm sure he'd bring them all back if he could get what he wanted, but he can't, so no reason to theorize about it.
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| Posted: June 28, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand that. We are talking about two different subjects. |
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hOuSeLf
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| Posted: June 30, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| RiddleisOurKing wrote: |
I don't believe it has anything to do with who deserves it, i think Sirius is more likely to come back than any other character because as stated before, we don't know what the Veil is or what is beyond it and if it actually kills the person or just traps them.
We saw Dumbledore die from a curse, we know Lily and James did as well.
But while we are on the subject of who deserves it, why is Sirius' life any less than Lily or James'? After all he was completely innocent.
So I don't see that as an argument. |
beautiful statement. We know that people are alive at least in essence after entering the vail.... harry could hear voices...or whispers coming from inside... he tried to speak to them but the didnt respond.
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| Hey no one saw Sirius's dead body did they, he just fell through a viel. Maybe he has been transported to China or something, and he is still on his way back to England. |
lmao!!
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| Posted: January 6, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| HRH2013 wrote: |
| But Lily and James are more important to Harry. Would you rather have your godfather return from the dead or your parents you have never seen? |
I`d choose godfater. Because Harry knew him and was already devoted to him. And Sirius Black was someone for whom Harry would do anything. Whereas his parents were dead and he never knew them. That would probably be too awkward for them to suddenly come back and live with him. He`d have to get to know them from the very start. And as we know James wasn`t like Harry thought he`d be at all.
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I agree with you to a point..but although Harry WAS loyal to sirius..he didnt really know him all that well, and didnt really spend a whole lot of time with him.. the reason he was loyal in the beginning *in my oppinion* was not because Sirius was his godfather, but because Sirius was the best friend of James. I think Harry and his Dad would have caught on just as he and Sirius had... just as Harry and Lupin had.
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well... probably. But still... 
Harry and Sirius didn`t get a lot of time to spend together but that`s why Sirius`s death hurt so much. Sirius was introduced to Harry as fast as taken away. You know what I mean? They were just starting to get on really well.
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| Posted: January 12, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: |
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well... probably. But still...
Harry and Sirius didn`t get a lot of time to spend together but that`s why Sirius`s death hurt so much. Sirius was introduced to Harry as fast as taken away. You know what I mean? They were just starting to get on really well. |
I know exactly what you mean. Harry was just starting to rely on Sirius for things he couldn't ask for from anyone else - and then bam! Bellatrix kills him! Harry really needed Sirius more than anyone else - even more than Ron and Hermione, even, I think.
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| Posted: January 16, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Sirius IS dead
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yep, he is 
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| Posted: January 22, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Black wrote: |
well... probably. But still...
Harry and Sirius didn`t get a lot of time to spend together but that`s why Sirius`s death hurt so much. Sirius was introduced to Harry as fast as taken away. You know what I mean? They were just starting to get on really well. |
I know exactly what you mean. Harry was just starting to rely on Sirius for things he couldn't ask for from anyone else - and then bam!Bellatrix kills him! Harry really needed Sirius more than anyone else - even more than Ron and Hermione, even, I think. |
exactly!! now you said it!
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| Posted: January 27, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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At the time in question I think that Harry needed Sirius more than Ron or Hermione....but in the end *as in book 7 and the epilogue* it was different
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| Posted: January 28, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: |
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^^ by the time we get to the end of the 7th book he`s used to not having Sirius around, but he still misses him.
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hOuSeLf
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| Posted: January 28, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I do not dispute that he misses sirius..it is just my thinking that Harry is very independent, and doesnt really NEED sirius in the end.. but of course he misses him
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| Posted: January 30, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| i don't think that sirius is not dead |
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hOuSeLf
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| Posted: January 31, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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have you read all of the books?
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