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PostPosted: January 27, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: What was inside the snitch? Reply with quote

I just read the last potter's book and i completely forgot about was inside the snitch, when harry says to dumbledore after killing voldemort "that thing that was inside the snitch is in the dark forest and nobody knows i left it there."
What is that thing? I can't remember. |:
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PostPosted: January 27, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ressurection stone.
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PostPosted: January 27, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! Very Happy
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

Can anyone enlighten me on the Ressurection Stone inside the snitch being a Horcrux? (page 721 hardback, paragraph 2) What are the 7 Horcruxes again? Diary, Ring, Necklace, Hufflepuff cup, Ravenclaw Tiara-thingy, Nagini, Harry?

If the Resurrection Stone is a Horcrux and Voldemort did not know about the Hallows, how did he know about the Resurrection Stone? If he didn't know about the Hallows, why would he use the Resurrection Stone to be a Horcrux? What special meaning would it hold for him, for his "precious" bit of soul, for his need to use items that had special meaning for him?

And, if it was broken, as Harry was to break all the Horcruxes, how is it that it still worked for him when he walked into the forest to go to Voldemort for the last time? And if it was broken, who broke it and when? Was the Resurrection Stone that stone which was inside Gaunt's ring? I remember Harry seeing the cracked ring in Dumbledore's office but when Harry opened the snitch he did not remark anything about it being the cracked stone he saw in Gaunt's ring.

Any help anyone?

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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

harriet wrote:
Can anyone enlighten me on the Ressurection Stone inside the snitch being a Horcrux? (page 721 hardback, paragraph 2) What are the 7 Horcruxes again? Diary, Ring, Necklace, Hufflepuff cup, Ravenclaw Tiara-thingy, Nagini, Harry?


Voldemort's soul was ripped into 8 pieces
1. The diary
2. Slytherins' locket
3. Ravenclaw's diadem
4. Nagini
5. Hufflepuff's cup
6. Slytherin's rin
7. Harry by accident
8. the piece of soul left in Voldemort.

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If the Resurrection Stone is a Horcrux and Voldemort did not know about the Hallows, how did he know about the Resurrection Stone? If he didn't know about the Hallows, why would he use the Resurrection Stone to be a Horcrux? What special meaning would it hold for him, for his "precious" bit of soul, for his need to use items that had special meaning for him?


The ring was made out of the ressurection stone. To any other onlooker, it just looked like a pretty stone. The ring was Slytherin's therefore very dear to Voldemort.

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And, if it was broken, as Harry was to break all the Horcruxes, how is it that it still worked for him when he walked into the forest to go to Voldemort for the last time? And if it was broken, who broke it and when? Was the Resurrection Stone that stone which was inside Gaunt's ring? I remember Harry seeing the cracked ring in Dumbledore's office but when Harry opened the snitch he did not remark anything about it being the cracked stone he saw in Gaunt's ring.

The ring was cracked, not the stone. The ressurection stone itself was still intact.
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
The ring was Slytherin's


Where does it say that the ring was Slyherin's? It was Gaunt's, but no one ever said it was Slytherin's...
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks GinnyX!

And to kwiddich, Gaunt was the heir to Slytherin. That's how he came to have it.
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

kwidditch wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
The ring was Slytherin's


Where does it say that the ring was Slyherin's? It was Gaunt's, but no one ever said it was Slytherin's...


It doesn't say that it was Slytherins, and evidence points to Slytherin being before the Peverells' time. One thing that really makes me believe this is the fact that Ignotus is buried in the cemetery in Godric's Hollow. Now, it is poccible that it was a wizarding community with another name before it was named after Godric Gryffindor, but I think that it had been called Godric's Hollow ever since its creation.
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that stone
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PostPosted: February 17, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harriet wrote:
And to kwiddich, Gaunt was the heir to Slytherin. That's how he came to have it.


Marvollo Gaunt was extremely proud of his ancestry, when he mentions the locket he keeps going on about the fact that it was Slytherin's own locket. So if the ring belonged to Slytherin, why doesn't he mention it? All he says is that it has the Peverell coat of arms (later found out to be the sign of the Deathly Hallows) on it. If the ring had been Slytherin's, he would have mentioned it. Besides, as zengrenouille wrote, Slytherin was before Peverell so Slytherin couldn't have had Peverell's stone.
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PostPosted: February 18, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwidditch wrote:
harriet wrote:
And to kwiddich, Gaunt was the heir to Slytherin. That's how he came to have it.


Marvollo Gaunt was extremely proud of his ancestry, when he mentions the locket he keeps going on about the fact that it was Slytherin's own locket. So if the ring belonged to Slytherin, why doesn't he mention it? All he says is that it has the Peverell coat of arms (later found out to be the sign of the Deathly Hallows) on it. If the ring had been Slytherin's, he would have mentioned it. Besides, as zengrenouille wrote, Slytherin was before Peverell so Slytherin couldn't have had Peverell's stone.


The stone was made into a ring eventually....
Gaunt was a Slytherin. So technically, the ring was was an heir of Slytherin, just not Salazar Slytherin himself.
Gaunt was the heir of Cadmus Peverell, who originally owned the stone.
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PostPosted: February 18, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Many Thanks! Reply with quote

It's so nice to have so many knowledgeable people interested in helping each other out to gain an understanding of the myriad of questions that come from reading these wonderful books.

Thanks to you all!
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PostPosted: February 27, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I need to reread the last book, because I seriously forgot 3/4 of this stuff even happened in the book.

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PostPosted: September 11, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

harriet wrote:


If the Resurrection Stone is a Horcrux and Voldemort did not know about the Hallows, how did he know about the Resurrection Stone? If he didn't know about the Hallows, why would he use the Resurrection Stone to be a Horcrux?

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The items themselves were not entirely known as the Hallows but stilll had an individual repuatation of thier own for thier powers, a bit more than just a shiney stone belonging to slazar slytherin. A good example is the eldar wand which goes by other names such as deathstick etc as i'm sure you all know but the wizards who searched for it )not all mind) we looking for a wand of unchallengable power not a hallow
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PostPosted: September 11, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
kwidditch wrote:
harriet wrote:
And to kwiddich, Gaunt was the heir to Slytherin. That's how he came to have it.


Marvollo Gaunt was extremely proud of his ancestry, when he mentions the locket he keeps going on about the fact that it was Slytherin's own locket. So if the ring belonged to Slytherin, why doesn't he mention it? All he says is that it has the Peverell coat of arms (later found out to be the sign of the Deathly Hallows) on it. If the ring had been Slytherin's, he would have mentioned it. Besides, as zengrenouille wrote, Slytherin was before Peverell so Slytherin couldn't have had Peverell's stone.


The stone was made into a ring eventually....
Gaunt was a Slytherin. So technically, the ring was was an heir of Slytherin, just not Salazar Slytherin himself.
Gaunt was the heir of Cadmus Peverell, who originally owned the stone.


It'd be an heirloom of Peverell, then. Because they're too different lines that just happened to meet.

zengrenouille wrote:
kwidditch wrote:
GinnyX wrote:
The ring was Slytherin's


Where does it say that the ring was Slyherin's? It was Gaunt's, but no one ever said it was Slytherin's...


It doesn't say that it was Slytherins, and evidence points to Slytherin being before the Peverells' time.


This isn't too constructive, but the Gaunt's Ring Wiki says:

"It is a gold ring inset with a black stone engraved with what Marvolo Gaunt called the Peverell coat of arms (having come into the Gaunt line from an heiress of the Peverells, not the Slytherin family), which is actually the symbol of the Deathly Hallows."

So yeah, it wasn't Slytherin's. Just a fairly unlikely coincidence that the two family lines happened to join at one point during history.
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PostPosted: September 17, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion the ring/resurrection stone was never Slytherin's. It was created by one of the Peverell Brothers after Slytherin's time. My feeling is that if Voldemort knew the power the stone had, he wouldn't have made it into a Horcrux, Voldemort like Grindelwald would have used the stone for an army of inferi,
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PostPosted: October 23, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

Where does it say that the ring was Slyherin's? It was Gaunt's, but no one ever said it was Slytherin's...[/quote]

voldemort was an heir of slytherin and if gaunt was his grandpa he would be related to him right?
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PostPosted: October 23, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Horcrux inside the Snitch Reply with quote

swimcoc12 wrote:
Where does it say that the ring was Slyherin's? It was Gaunt's, but no one ever said it was Slytherin's...


voldemort was an heir of slytherin and if gaunt was his grandpa he would be related to him right?[/quote]

The Gaunts were descendents of both the Slytherin and the Peverell Families, meaning at one point in history a Slytherin and a Peverell (Probably Cadmus Peverell or a Child of Cadmus') Married and one of their descendents (The Slytherin and Peverell Marriage) Married into the Gaunt family. Thus meaning that Voldemort being the offspring to a Gaunt was related to the Slytherin and Peverell Families. In hindsight, it also means that Harry and Voldemort were distant cousins of some sort due to the the Fact that they are both related to the Peverells.
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it was the resurrection stone. one of the deathly hallows. Very Happy
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