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Vasaver
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Okay a weird speculation from my dear mommy Reply with quote

Okay I was talking to my mom and she had just finished reading all of the Harry Potter books and she asked me something on the name Voldemort. She noticed that if you were to say it in french it could become three words vol de mort. Which she said meant flight from death or flee from death. Now me, being the only one in the family that couldnt speak french to save her life, was like, wow, that's really interesting. We both began to wonder if JK had purposely made that connection, to make his name truly mean flight from death, and Tom Riddle could have made it to make his name sound like he would never die, or something along those lines. So honestly, and truly, do you think me, or i should just say my mom, found something?
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Okay a weird speculation from my dear mommy Reply with quote

J.K. Rowling studied French in college... so... yeah. It was definitely intentional.
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooh, i didnt know it had a meaning, i just thought it was the letters of tom marvolo riddle reaorganized to be i am lord voldemort, which of course was voldy's intention

so he didnt realise voldemort meant something in french
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what me and my mom came up with was that he purposely made the letters of his mane into Voldemort. My mother says that Vol de mort can literally mean fleer of death, in other words if you can flee from death you will never die, therefor you are immortal. Which, if I am correct, that is exactly what Voldemort wanted, to be immortal, so if he made a name that meant immortal then people would think of him as such also.
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, so you think he did it on purpose?
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's what I am implying. I mean, I dont think JK would make that coincidences on purpose and make it not mean anything to Voldemort.
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if Voldemort did it on purpose for a fact, but I'm positive JKR did. I'm sure Voldemort did, too.
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voler also means to steal...he steals from death. makes sense either way.
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Marvolo Riddle also is..

I am Lord Voldemort

JKR is brilliant
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelPotter20 wrote:
Tom Marvolo Riddle also is..

I am Lord Voldemort

JKR is brilliant


She used Andy's Anagram Solver:

http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puking Pastilles wrote:
AngelPotter20 wrote:
Tom Marvolo Riddle also is..

I am Lord Voldemort

JKR is brilliant


She used Andy's Anagram Solver:

http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html


Maybe not.. she's just brilliant like that. Laughing
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you be in Ravenclaw and a Hogwarts Teacher? o_o
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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puking Pastilles wrote:
How can you be in Ravenclaw and a Hogwarts Teacher? o_o


Everyone can belong to a House. The Hogwarts Prof is a rank. Once you reach a certain amount of points, your rank changes...

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PostPosted: January 15, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy im just glad i brought this topic up, shows some of the brilliance of JK
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PostPosted: January 19, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Okay a weird speculation from my dear mommy Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
J.K. Rowling studied French in college... so... yeah. It was definitely intentional.


I agree, but it still is quite interesting. Being able to relate a French word and two names without much thought (I assume so), only J.K. Rowling is intelligent enough for that. Very Happy
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PostPosted: January 19, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Okay a weird speculation from my dear mommy Reply with quote

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only J.K. Rowling is intelligent enough for that. Very Happy


I concur. Very Happy
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PostPosted: January 19, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Marvolo riddle = I am lord voldemort - vol de mort = flee from death = he uses the deathly hallows and tries to kill everyone in his way icluding harry. The whole plot of the harry potter books is inside voldys name. yay for jk and Vasavers mom.
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PostPosted: January 19, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I read something about Vol de Mort meaning flight from death in... umm... The ultimate guide to the mysteries of harry potter or whatever its called XD
But you're mum was really clever when she figured that out by herself =)
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PostPosted: January 20, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a very interesting theory! x)
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PostPosted: January 20, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariana92 wrote:
I think I read something about Vol de Mort meaning flight from death in... umm... The ultimate guide to the mysteries of harry potter or whatever its called XD
But you're mum was really clever when she figured that out by herself =)


where is that website at i wanna look at it!
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PostPosted: January 24, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JK definatly did it intentionally. However, it's an interesting thought that perhaps Voldemort knew what he was calling himself.

Also, since technically his name is vol de mort, the 't' on 'mort' is silent. So Voldemort should be pronounced "Vol-De-More", not "Vol-De-Mort."
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PostPosted: January 25, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vasaver wrote:
Ariana92 wrote:
I think I read something about Vol de Mort meaning flight from death in... umm... The ultimate guide to the mysteries of harry potter or whatever its called XD
But you're mum was really clever when she figured that out by herself =)


where is that website at i wanna look at it!


It's a book.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Unofficial-Mysteries-Potter-Analysis/dp/0972393617
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PostPosted: January 25, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GinnyX wrote:
I don't know if Voldemort did it on purpose for a fact, but I'm positive JKR did. I'm sure Voldemort did, too.


im positive voldie did.. maybe he came across a french dark arts book, saw the phrase vol de mort, got fascinated with it, found that he could make an anagram with his name, and then used it.
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PostPosted: January 25, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well JK definetaly did use that name INTENTIONALLY seeing as all of her SPELL names come fom latin and ALL have a meaning which is relevant to the PURPOSE of the spell so...It is obvious that she meant for his name to be voldermort right? Not like its your everyday name lol. Also, the whole FLIGHT FROM DEATH thing would explain ALOT seeing as voldermort always feared death more than ANYHING so perhaps it doesn't mean flight fom death as in never dieing but maybe he meant trying to ESCAPE from it, which is obviously IMPOSSIBLE, even for a wizard. I guess this is where the horcruxes come in, eh? lol.
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PostPosted: January 25, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vol de mort?Maybe JKR wanted to make it sound like Lord of Death,but name Lord du Mort would sound kind of stupid so she decided Vol de Mort.
That is just a speculation.Maybe her origin is from France so she wanted to make something that sound like French.
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