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ollivanders said that using another peson's wand will not yield ideal results, that they wont be powerful enough, or something to that effect.
remember riddle got harry's wand when they were down in the COS? do you think that harry's wand will also perfectly suit riddle, being that they both have the same cores? or will it still be different because of the wood (harry's is holly; voldie's is yew). what effect does the wood have anyway?
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| Posted: May 12, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: Re: wands |
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i do not know
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that explains a lot.
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| Posted: May 12, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think that it wouldn't be perfect, but it would be a close match, seeing that usually, the core of something is more important than the outside (wood).
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| Posted: May 12, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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the closest voldie can get to his own wand.
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Exactly.
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why though would his wand be made of phoenix feather? the phoenix is a creature who totally cannot be linked with voldie. it is full of positive forces, like loyalty and bravery. why wasnt voldie's wand made of snake tongue or something?
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| why though would his wand be made of phoenix feather? the phoenix is a creature who totally cannot be linked with voldie. it is full of positive forces, like loyalty and bravery. why wasnt voldie's wand made of snake tongue or something? |
Dumbledore said that it is our choices that makes us good or evil. So although Voldemort's wand's core is of a phoenix (and good) he made the choice to be evil.
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but if the wand chooses the wizard, then it might have suspected that voldie was evil. after all, he did not "turn evil". he was evil from the beginning (at least since the time dumbledore told him he was a wizard)
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| Posted: May 17, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: wands |
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
ollivanders said that using another peson's wand will not yield ideal results, that they wont be powerful enough, or something to that effect.
remember riddle got harry's wand when they were down in the COS? do you think that harry's wand will also perfectly suit riddle, being that they both have the same cores? or will it still be different because of the wood (harry's is holly; voldie's is yew). what effect does the wood have anyway? |
I think the wood is the wizards personality.
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or it could be the wizard's destiny. holly - repels evil. yew - sort of reminds you of death, which voldemort caused to so many people.
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nar its to do with dates look
http://www.jkrowling.com
when u enter the site... click the hairbrush for extras... then the yellow sticker saying Miscellanous...then scroll down for wands[/spoiler]
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I think the core of the wands only have a part to do with it's compatability to the wizard. Besides the wood being different, they look different in shape and form, so we can assume they're made a bit differently, too.
I took this from JKR's official site:
http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/extrastuff_view.cfm?id=18
Section: Extra Stuff
WANDS
I gave Harry a wand made of holly wood back in 1990, when I first drafted chapter six of ‘Philosopher’s Stone’. It was not an arbitrary decision: holly has certain connotations that were perfect for Harry, particularly when contrasted with the traditional associations of yew, from which Voldemort’s wand is made. European tradition has it that the holly tree (the name comes from ‘holy’) repels evil, while yew, which can achieve astonishing longevity (there are British yew trees over two thousand years old), can symbolise both death and resurrection; the sap is also poisonous.
Some time after I had given Harry his holly-and-phoenix wand I came across a description of how the Celts had assigned trees to different parts of the year and discovered that, entirely by coincidence, I had assigned Harry the ‘correct’ wood for his day of birth. I therefore decided to give Ron and Hermione Celtic wand woods, too. Ron, who was born in the February 18 - March 17 period, was given an ash wand (I think I had originally marked him down for beech), and Hermione, who was born between September 2 and September 29, received a vine wood wand (I can’t remember what I originally stipulated for Hermione; possibly I had not specified a wood for her at that stage).
I have only used the Celtic assignations for Ron and Hermione. Hagrid, for instance, has an oak wand though by this Celtic system he should have a wand made of elder; in Britain, the oak is ‘King of the Forest’ and symbolises strength, protection and fecundity; what other wood could ‘choose’ Hagrid? In any case, I liked having a hidden connection between Harry, Ron and Hermione’s wands that only I knew about (until now, anyway).
For those who are interested in the trees assigned to the different parts of the Celtic year, below is the chart that I used. I apologise to any Celtic tree experts out there for any inaccuracies I may have reproduced (I have found slight variations between sources since I first came across this information.)
December 24 - January 20 = Birch (Beth)
January 21 - February 17 = Rowan (Luis)
February 18 - March 17 = Ash (Nion)
March 18 - April 14 = Alder (Fearn)
April 15 - May 12 = Willow (Saille)
May 13 - June 9 = Hawthorn (Huath)
June 10 - July 7 = Oak (Duir)
July 8 - August 4 = Holly (Tinne)
August 5 - September 1 = Hazel (Coll)
September 2 - September 29 = Vine (Muin)
September 30 - October 27 = Ivy (Gort)
October 28 - November 24 = Reed (Ngetal)
November 25 - December 23 = Elder (Ruis) |
I showed your question on my site and one of my members found this.
Interesting isn't it XP ?
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ya it does have something to do with the birthdates. but jkr didnt have that at the time. she just put holly for harry because it repels evil, and yew for voldie because of death. so i guess the main reason for the wood is your destiny, not your birthdate, which sounds a little superficial.
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How is it superficial? if anything, I think using the meanings behind the wood and the birthdates adds more meaning as to why and how the wand chooses the wizard.
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sometimes birthdates dont coincide with the destinies.
take for instance voldie, if you base it on his birthday, his wand would be birch. but no. in the story, his wand is yew. and yew is associated with death. clearly, its the destiny that matters, not the birthday.
anyway, as i have said, jkr only knew of the birthdates thing lately. she has alwaays had in mind that holly repels evil and so it should be harry's. therefore you can conclude that the main reason why the wands of people are such is because of their destinies, not their birthdates. lucky for harry it did coincide.
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
sometimes birthdates dont coincide with the destinies.
take for instance voldie, if you base it on his birthday, his wand would be birch. but no. in the story, his wand is yew. and yew is associated with death. clearly, its the destiny that matters, not the birthday.
anyway, as i have said, jkr only knew of the birthdates thing lately. she has alwaays had in mind that holly repels evil and so it should be harry's. therefore you can conclude that the main reason why the wands of people are such is because of their destinies, not their birthdates. lucky for harry it did coincide. |
ooohhh....
I'd rather the wands coincide with their destiny as oppoesd to their birthday.
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| Posted: May 26, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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yah its more intersting.
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and jkr intentionally made harry's and voldie's wands their destiny. she said holly repels evil, and yew is associated with death. so it fits. because if you take a look, if she based it on the birthdays, ron and voldie would have different wands. but she chose the wood based on destines.
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Other then the Cores matching.
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Other then the Cores matching.
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it wouldnt be that different, but itll probably work well for him , not as good , but probably still powerful
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