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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Tom Riddle' year Reply with quote

I thought it would be interesting to know the people our Dark Lord met in Hogwarts-Myrtle is out that list, hehe-If anybody has another person, feel free to post it...

First surprise...Longbottom's grandmother(Augusta) was one ...and...Minerva McGonagall too!!!

Then, a lot of Blacks, surely in Slytherin...Walburga Black, Orion, Alphard, and Cygnus...then, we have Ignatius Prewett and Druella Rosier.

...and Harry's grandpa!!!Yep!!!Charlus Potter, pureblood!!!

...I think the auntie Muriel (Weasley family) was too there...

...and, of course, dearest Abraxas Malfoy lol, Draco's grandpa...

Discuss, discuss, please
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hagrid. tom riddle the prefect got hagrid expelled because he framed hagrid and told armando dippet that hagrid was raising the monster, which was a spider.

myrtle. you have mentioned her.

how did he meet mcgonagall? do you think they were classmates? how old by the way is mc gonagall? if he was in the same year as mcgonagall, then yeah he would also know augusta longbottom (although she was not yet a longbottom at that time).

horace slughorn. favorite teacher. i think slughorn will have an impt role, since he is the only one who knows lily AND voldie well enough. perhaps he can tell harry what charm lily potter used to save him.

maybe eileen prince? the mom of snape? i reckon they are about the same age.
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep!!!I knew I forget sth...of course, Eileen Prince and Hagrid!!Well, I think McGonagall and Augusta were in the same year, they were friends, probably Gryffindors, and it would be VERY interesting to know McGony's age to know is she was a Voldy' classmate...Sluggie and Dumbledore were classmates too, a lot of time ago...


I wonder if Charlus Potter, member of the Blacks, were a Gryffindor, surely he was, cause he was nice with Sirius and we never saw he were dissapointed for the house in which James was sorted...then, Charlus, Minerva and Augusta in Gryffindor...
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if mc gonagall were voldie's classmate then she must be about 70 years old already. was it mentioned in any of the books how old she was? i know that in OOTP, she told dolores that she had been teaching for 39 years.
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGonagall was born in 04/10/1925,

Tom Riddle was born in 31/12/1929,

Hagrid was born in 1931

So, when Minerva was in 7th, Tom was in 3th year and Rubeus was starting his magical education
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where did you get those dates? i thought voldie was born 1925?
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah the wonders of Lexicon
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PostPosted: May 9, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't remember, i think it was wikipedia ...
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Voldie was born 31 December, 1925. Here’s my computation:

31 December, 1925: Tom Riddle was born

31 December, 1936: Tom Riddle turns 11

September, 1937 – Tom Riddle enters Hogwarts (I think that you
cannot enter Hogwarts if you are ten, even if you will be turning 11 that same year.)

1938-39, 2nd yr; 1939-40, 3rd yr; 1940-1941, 4th yr; 1942-43, 5th yr;

June 1943 (depending on whether it was opened Sept-Dec, or Jan-June): Tom Riddle was in his fifth year; he opened the COS

June 1945: Tom Riddle graduated from Hogwarts

- I got that the COS was opened around that time since it was said so in COS that the chamber was opened 50 years ago. If COS was set in 1992, then we can conclude the chamber was opened 1942-1943. I am inclined to believe it is 1943 because the diary of Riddle opened in June 13. Riddle was in his 5th yr in June 13 1943, but in his 4th yr June 1942. When Malfoy said the chamber was opened 50 years ago, perhaps he meant 50 “school years” ago.
- The rest are computations derived from that bit of information.
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In lexicon i found this, check it: [url]http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/timeline.php?search=91|-1[/url]


in wikipedia sais that Minerva McGonagall was born in October, 4th, 1920... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_McGonagall[/url]

and that Hagrid was born in 1928... [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubeus_Hagrid[/url]


So, when Minewrva was in 7th year, Tom was in 2th year...when Hagrid entered Hogwarts, Tom was in 3th year and Minerva was gone...in Hagrid's third year, when he was expelled, Tom was in 5th year...a sly, cunning and handsome prefect...now everything makes sense hehe



any more dates?Maybe Charlus either Abraxas???They are too much important!!!
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mistake then. I forgot to put the years 1941-1942. So here

1992-1993: setting of COS

1942-1943: school year when COS was first opened

June 1943: Hagrid was expelled
June 1943: Riddle was 16
Dec 31 1942: Riddle turned 16
Sept 1942: Riddle’s Fifth year at Hogwarts
Sept 1941: Riddle’s fourth year
Sept 1940: Riddle’s third year
Sept 1939: Riddle’s second year
Sept 1938: Riddle’s First year at Hogwarts – so he was eleven by this time
Dec 31 1937: Riddle’s 11th Birthday
Dec 31 1926: Riddle was born

That's voldie's timeline from his birth till his 5th year.

as for mcgonagall and hagrid, where did wikipedia get those sources?
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know, that's all i got...anybody else has more dates?Abraxas Malfoy's?
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no idea. well, jk said that charlus potter (or whoever harry's grandpa is) is quite old already. they had james when they were quite old, hence james being an only child and pretty much a spoiled kid (you can see that he is quite big headed in book 5, a result of being spoiled).

as for abraxas malfoy, i have no idea how old he is, but im guessing that lucius, being quite close to snape, must be around his age. in that case lucius was in hogwarts together with james and lily. i just do not know whether they were in the same year or not. probably, they were. usually you are closer to the people in your year than the people who are not in your year. If lucius is close to snape, it might be that they were classmates at hogwarts and hence shared a dormitory as well.
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job!!!

But Lucius is a bit older than Severus: Lucius was born in 1954( all about this in Wikipedia)

Narcissa was born in 1955, Bellatrix in 1951...and Severus in 1958...he's the younger one...when Bellatrix was at 7th year, Lucius was at 4th and Narcissa at 3th year...Severus was 10 years old, he wasn't in Hogwarts yet...when Lucius was at 7th year, this is interesting, Cissy was at 6th AND Severus at 3th year...maybe he met them then or possibly through those oustanding Dark Arts meetings...
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay then, there, you have the dates. where does wikipedia get all this information?
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDK, I'm not in Wikipedia's group...ask them Cool
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay fine then. i got bored trying to look for the sources. ill take their word for it. okay then.

bella - 1951
lucius - 1954 born
narcissa - 1955
snape - 1958

what about slughorn? any idea?
all i know is that slughorn is that fifty years ago he was teaching in hogwarts,

and there was this DADA professor merrythought.

dumbledore was born 1891. so by sorcerer's stone, he was 100 years old.
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if this were a DD'year, we'll talk about Sluggie of course, cause he was only a little younger than DD..(HBP), but anyways we can think about it, it's interesting...DD and Slughorn were Hogwarts' teachers in Tom's years, with old Dippet as headmaster there...anybody knows when did DD left his professor role and became headmaster...
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PostPosted: May 10, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read it somewhere but i dont remember where.
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PostPosted: May 11, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh...maybe here?

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Yep!!!I knew I forget sth...of course, Eileen Prince and Hagrid!!Well, I think McGonagall and Augusta were in the same year, they were friends, probably Gryffindors, and it would be VERY interesting to know McGony's age to know is she was a Voldy' classmate...Sluggie and Dumbledore were classmates too, a lot of time ago...


more dates, more dates! Very Happy
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PostPosted: May 11, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check lexicon. mcgonagall is a few years older than volders. i think she was in her theird year when he entered hogwarts. most likley augusta was her classmate. hagrid is two years younger than riddle.

i think slughorn is younger than dumbldore, but nevertheless they were colleagues.

even older than DD is griselda marchbanks.

do you think the parents of sirius were classmates of voldie? and also abraxas malfoy?
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PostPosted: May 12, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, although I have no evidences, I really believe that...and that means they were the first ones in the Death Eaters first enrollment!!!
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PostPosted: May 12, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lestrange and avery were probably among the first recruits. if you take a look at the chapters Horcruxes and A Sluggish Memory, slughorn mentions their names, and tells them to go to bed and not to forget to do their homeworks. So if Lestrange is as old as voldie, then bella must be quite old to marry a man about that age. Voldie must have been about 70 by the time of HBP. (50 years ago + 16 years old when he opened the chamber + 4 years that have elapsed since COS). That must explain why the lestranges are very close to Voldie. they werent just mere recruits. they were "intimate friends" since their days at Hogwarts. now, i dunno about Avery. sounds like a slippery friend.
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PostPosted: May 12, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, nope, dude...that Lestrange wasn't Rodolphus, hehe...it was Lestrange senior...Rod and Rabastan' father, that's all Cool
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