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Sybill


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Posted: April 25, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: Sybill Trelawney |
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ZOMG TRELAWNEY DISCUSSION!
Have fun.  _________________
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Phoenix



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Posted: April 25, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I feel like an extreme Harry Potter n00b, but I forgot who this is  _________________
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Sybill


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Posted: April 27, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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The Divination professor who many believe to be a fraud. _________________
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Phoenix



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Posted: April 27, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ohhh yeah. Gosh I feel stupid  _________________
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halfbloodprincess


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Posted: April 28, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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i dont believe she is really a fraud.
she had two real predictions which we are sure of. she may have had others as well, but we do not know.
she predicted that lavender's rabbit will die, that neville will break his cup, and that hermione will leave their number forever.
she keeps sayng that hp will die. well, i have learned that if jk keeps repeating and reinforcing soemthing, she means it.
she predicted the lightning struck tower thing. |
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shewhoshouldnotbenamed


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Posted: April 28, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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she has said some supid stuff but later they come true and your sitting there like OMG _________________ and so, The Fellowship of the Phoenix set off on their journey into the heart of Voldemordor
to destroy the One Horcrux ...
'YOU SHALL NOT PASS' - Dumbledore the White
'my precious' - Kreacher |
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Sybill


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Posted: May 5, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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She's sorely underestimated, in my opinion. Imagine how you would feel if your ancestor was amazing, but barely a soul gives you their trust. _________________
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GinnyX



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Posted: May 6, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think she's so much a fraud as she is misunderstood. Predictions can be interpreted in so many ways... I mean whe I look into my tea cup I only see another dirty dish for me to clean.
We know that to some extent she's real... But even when she made the prediction in PoA the trio still thinks she is a fraud. Nothing she can do, say, or predict will make anyone accept her as real. So she probably feels she needs to elaborate on her gifts. It makes me wonder if she ever had a prediction before the Voldemort-Harry one. Afterall, she seemed to think se possessed the site. She might not even know herself the extent of her gifts. _________________
Blame it on a simple twist of fate. ~ Bob Dylan
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halfbloodprincess


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Posted: May 8, 2007 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| you know her name should be cassandra instead of sibyll. cassandra was this trojan princess who could predict the future but nobody believed her. that is exactly what trelawney is. she is grossly underestimated. but then again maybe it is her personality that makes everyone think she is a fraud. but i think otherwise. she will probably have an important role in the seventh book. |
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| halfbloodprincess wrote: |
| you know her name should be cassandra instead of sibyll. cassandra was this trojan princess who could predict the future but nobody believed her. that is exactly what trelawney is. she is grossly underestimated. but then again maybe it is her personality that makes everyone think she is a fraud. but i think otherwise. she will probably have an important role in the seventh book. |
Funny you should say that, JKR fully intended Sybill Trelawney to be a descendent of Cassandra...
Stolen from the Lexicon...
Trelawney, Cassandra
Great-great-grandmother of Sibyll Trelawney. Cassandra was a "very famous, very gifted" Seer in her day (OP37).
Cassandra=Trojan seer gifted with true prophecy, but cursed (by Apollo) so that no one would ever believe her. The people of Troy ignored her warnings not to allow the Trojan Horse within the city's walls, a mistake that allowed the Greeks to capture Troy (EM).
Trelawney, Sibyll
Divination professor at Hogwarts, hired by Dumbledore in 1979 [Y-1] after making a prophecy about Harry Potter and Voldemort. She was sacked during the 1995-1996 [Y15 - Y16] school year by Umbridge, but reinstated at the end of the year (PA, GF, OP).
This, from OotP...
'So it was Professor Dumbledore who appointed you?'
'That's right,' said Professor Trelawney shortly.
Professor Umbridge made another note.
'And you are a great-great-granddaughter of the celebrated Seer Cassandra Trelawney?'
'Yes,' said Professor Trelawney, holding her head a little high.
Also, see more here...
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/trelawney.html _________________
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Blibbering Humdinger


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Posted: June 28, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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i dont believe she is really a fraud.
she had two real predictions which we are sure of. she may have had others as well, but we do not know.
she predicted that lavender's rabbit will die, that neville will break his cup, and that hermione will leave their number forever.
she keeps sayng that hp will die. well, i have learned that if jk keeps repeating and reinforcing soemthing, she means it.
she predicted the lightning struck tower thing. |
Good summary. I agree. _________________ "You can laugh, but people used to believe there were no such things as the Blibbering Humdinger or the Crumple-Horned Snorkack!" - Luna Lovegood |
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Posted: June 28, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think she is a fraud, but she is extremely annoying...  |
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Blibbering Humdinger


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Posted: June 28, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think she is a fraud, but she is extremely annoying...  |
Yeah she is... and this is the reason why the trio thought she's more like a fraud... but I do like readin' the parts about her 'cause I find it amusing. _________________ "You can laugh, but people used to believe there were no such things as the Blibbering Humdinger or the Crumple-Horned Snorkack!" - Luna Lovegood |
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underoathhp


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halfbloodprincess


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annoying, yes. fraud, no. _________________
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LostDog-Padfoot


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Here is my deal. When Umbridge sacked her Dumbledore wanted her to remain at Hogwarts. Thisaway the death eaters wouldn't be able to force the prophecy out of her. But um with Hogwarts possibly not being in the next book where will Trelenaw go? Just thought of something though does she even have any memory of the foretelling the prophecy? In the 7th book she had a vision and didn't realize it, so will she even be useful if captured by the enemy? _________________ "Greatness inspires envy, envy engenders spite, spite spawns lies"
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| She can still live at Hogwarts. |
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Arabella


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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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No she does not remember making the prophecy, but Voldemort coaxed information out of Bertha Jorkins when strong memory charms were blocking the way, he could probably get the prophecy out of Trelawney, especially as she'd not be trying to block it. My idea is that it is lurking there in or beneath her subconscience and that is why Dumbledore kept her at Hogwarts. _________________
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RiddleisOurKing


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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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She's like those people who claim they can speak with ghosts. They amaze some people who want to believe and everyone else can see through her. Yes, she had two real predictions but everything else that comes out of her mouth is vague and lacks any kind of detail.
Neville breaks the cup because she made him nervous by telling him he would do it. If she was any kind of smart, why wouldn't she just tell him to start with the color she didn't like as much in the first place?
As for Lavender's rabbit, well Hermione debunked that for us. _________________
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HRH2013

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| anyone think she is hot? |
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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Nah, but Mcgonigall is! _________________
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HRH2013

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| No, she has too many wrinkles! |
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Arabella


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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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but she can turn into a cat. didn't you say cats were sexy? _________________
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HRH2013

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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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...maybe...
STOP BEING MEAN!
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Ronfreak


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Posted: July 1, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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trelawny does make good predictions occasionally. everything else is crap. _________________
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